The journey from there to here

One of our newer bloggers has taken it upon himself to mount a personal crusade against the poor. Not just welfare dependents, mind you, but ANYONE making under the EIC "ceiling" for having children (except military personnel).

As Tex, LW, Bakerstreet and I, among others, have repeatedly pointed out, there is no need for individuals living in "poverty" to live in squalor. The vast majority of the world's population lives on far less than minimum wage workers in our own country. And minimum wage jobs are obtainable in virtually every job market in the country.

Not only must poorer families be more creative in this economy, they actually are a part of what helps this economy survive. Secondhand markets make vast amounts of money; largely off of poor families attempting to economize and buy items that are quality, items for far less than retail. In some cases, the initial owner is paid for the resale items (garage sales, etc; income that is often NOT reported on tax forms...but that's a topic for another blog entirely). Your used car receives a trade in value because, guess what? The dealer (and, in cases of older used cars, backlot dealers) makes money reselling the used vehicles to individuals who are unable or unwilling to afford to buy the newer vehicles.

A poorer family that actually gets by (as in, paying all their bills and putting a little extra income into savings) on a low income is actually more fiscally responsible than one that's in debt up to their eyeballs making twice as much. We must shop for the best price per unit on our groccery purchases, often forego the "happy meals" for a bag of double cheeseburgers, a few orders of large fries and a bottle of soda purchased at the dollar store. Our used Nikes often come from the garage sales of people such as the person who inspired this thread, who look down their noses at the working class...and often with nary a scuff.

Then there is the additional fact that cost of living varies widely across this country. While $35,000 might be a subsistence wage for a family living in DC or southern California, I can assure you that in the Texas Panhandle, with an income of that amount, I would, within five years own several rental properties and other varied investments.

If you want to rally against means tested boondoggles such as the EIC, be my guest. I am your ally and will join you in that crusade. But if you insist on attacking the people who work hard to live on their incomes and raise their responsibility, you have an enemy. Because being poor is not something we should attempt to outlaw until (allegedly) wealthy elitist snobs such as yourself are willing to pay their workers MORE than the EIC ceiling.


Comments
on Sep 21, 2005
Thank you, Gideon.

Your articles have been real eye-openers for me. The more I read, the more I respect you and your point of view.

I'm a humbler and wiser man for paying attention to your story.

Again, thanks!
on Sep 21, 2005
You must be having some high times indeed, Gid, if you're splurging on a bag of double cheeseburgers now and then--glad to hear things are going a little better for you these days!


Actually, we're doing rather well. What most people don't realize is that my 40 hour a week second job is my SUPPLEMENTARY income; the paper route provides most of our actual NEEDS! We're not wealthy, by a longshot, but we have more money than we have expenses. And that's never a bad thing!

One of my personal favorite sayings is: it's not how many times you get knocked down that counts, it's how many times you GET UP!
on Sep 21, 2005
This is no society for Stoics. The only way you can attain respect is if you seek every luxury possible. Better yet, you can be REALLY trendy if you surround yourself by luxury and rail against it every other breath...

I'm not sure anyone that can't raise a family on $35,000 can really talk about responsibility. Evidently the expenses that are the problem aren't responsible in the least...
on Sep 21, 2005
Good points Gid!
on Sep 21, 2005
as usual good well thought out article, gid.

I have always felt being "poor" is also a state of mind.

While not having enough money, does not make you poor.

get it?
on Sep 22, 2005

I have always felt being "poor" is also a state of mind.

While not having enough money, does not make you poor.

get it?

Bingo.

Frankly, I relish getting monthly electric bills for less than $40 because I economized (yes, our electric bill came in today, and yes, I'm bragging...lol)

on Sep 22, 2005
Frankly, I relish getting monthly electric bills for less than $40 because I economized (yes, our electric bill came in today, and yes, I'm bragging...lol)


Wow!! I'm impress....some pointers please!
on Sep 22, 2005
Good article. You know, we may not be rich in that we don't have many material possessions, but that's not important, IMO. Material things can be gone in the blink of an eye (look at the aftermath of Katrina for further explanation). Love, and time spent with your kids is FAR more important.

Oh, and I agree about being more fiscally responsible. I won't pay $75 for a brand new pair of Nikes for my kid, but I will pay $5 or $10 for a barely-used pair at the thrift store. Before the boys went back to school, I went yardsaleing and found them hardly worn Old Navy and Gap jeans (4 pairs each) for $1 a pair. So, what makes more financial sense? Forking out $160+ for jeans for school, or paying $8 for the same pants?

I bet that yourself, Tex and I are more respinsible with our money than Eric 'I value others by their material possessions' Seba.
on Sep 22, 2005
Wow!! I'm impress....some pointers please!


Basically everything they tell you. We have compact flourescent bulbs for ALL of our lights, we have a 19" TV (a 25" TV pulls TWICE the energy of a 19" TV); when we must use air conditioning, we use one room air conditioner and bring the kids to "camp out" in that room; we keep our refrigerator and freezer full of food so we aren't wasting money cooling air (plus, solids hold the cold in longer than gases, so a full fridge and freezer stays colder longer).

One of the tricks we pull as parents is: our children's allowance money is tied to our money after expenses; so if they conserve, it's more money for them as well.