The journey from there to here

In a recent article on the boycott of Kraft foods by the "American Family Association", one respondent wrote about being tired of conservatives trying to force their beliefs up his (posterior orifice). But that is not, and never has been, what conservatives or even the AFA are about.

First of all, the AFA is a CHRISTIAN organization. That is part of its purpose, that is in its mission statement. The boycotts it calls, the statements it makes, are meant for the education of its MEMBERS. Does anyone cry foul when the NRA points out the voting positions of gun control candidates? Do they cry foul when buyblue.org sets up a website dedicated to the idea of spending one's money at organizations that promote leftist causes? No, nor should they.

Going "into" the AFA's statements and putting them to the court of public opinion is akin to the idea of criticizing the policies of the Vatican, or of the Southern Baptist Convention in light of public opinion. While AFA is not a denomination, it is a conservative Christian organization, and its statements are its own business. Nowhere in the AFA boycott is a political statement advocating any sort of sanction against Kraft food for its actions from any political entity. They are simply educating and informaing their members (in a tactic invented by the left, as Baker aptly points out) so that their members can make educated decisions.

I know several people who were members of various groups that supported the Disney boycott. Of those people, NOT ONE actually boycotted Disney products. They simply weren't that concerned about a private organization's actions. I suspect this boycott will be the same way. And if it isn't, so what? Maybe a corporation SHOULD be held accountable by its consumers for how it spends its money.


Comments
on Jun 27, 2005
Well Gid, you know these days freedom of speech seems to apply to everyone except Christians. Somehow the same people who claim to stand for people's rights think it excludes Christians for some reason.

Personally, I think it's because Christians and Christian organizations are willing to take a stand and come right out and say they believe that something is wrong or immoral and some people don't want to hear that. It isn't PC to say you believe something is immoral as it is immediately viewed as intolerance instead of as voicing an opinion.

Basically the whole PC trend appears to be "it's absolutely wrong to say or do anything that might in any way offend someone, unless of course that someone happens to be a Christian."
on Jun 27, 2005
I just had to laugh at that post you referred to.  WHen trhe left calls for a boycott, it is their right to shun the neocon facists racists bigotted pigs.  When the right professes an opinion, they are trying to force their beliefs down your throat.  That is not the first time that hypocrisy has been used.  Just check out any article on the left that is critical of opinions of the right.  They are not only disagreeing with the opinions, they are accusing the holder of said opinions of brain washing.
on Jun 29, 2005
NM
on Jun 29, 2005
They are simply educating and informaing their members (in a tactic invented by the left, as Baker aptly points out) so that their members can make educated decisions.


It's just weird that they're "educating" their members about how bad a certain group of people are, that's all. They should be "educating" people about behavior, but whatever.

See, theres another little organization that "educates" it's members about black people and minorities in general, but no one calls it education when its them, do they?

(again, not equating the AFA with the KKK, just saying that if the tables were turned and it was Black people, or Jews, or Asians, or Hispanics, or any other specific group of people was the object of the AFA's "education", there would be much more uproar from many more people)
on Jun 30, 2005

Oh, my goodness, you're right, Phil! When I saw Jerry Falwell light that cross in front of the Kraft Foods headquarters, strains of Neil Young's "Southern Man" ran through my head! I shuddered, as I wondered how far have we come since Montgomery. I mean, first they murdered Medgar Evers, Martin Luther King Junior, Malcolm X, and others, now they're not buying Velveeta! The horrors!

In other words: PLEASE!

on Jun 30, 2005
Phil comes to this conclusion because he sees homosexuals in the same light as a race or a religion. So, if you deny one of them rights, you might as well be wearing a hood. The fact is, though, no one is being denied rights here. The AFA is simply choosing who to do business with the same way Greenpeace does.

To me, and I think a lot of other people, I see homosexuality in the same light as people who prefer peanut butter to chocolate. I DON'T think it is a defining characteristic, simply a preference. You can debate whether or not it is genetic all day, but you could also make the point that many of our other preferences are genetic.

So if you want to think that a preference makes you somehow an endangered species or persecuted race, then by all means, paint little hoods on the AFA. I think it is silly to equate the 200 year suffering of an enslaved race to what homosexuals deal with now, though.
on Jun 30, 2005

Bingo, Baker!

Yes, some homosexuals have been persecuted badly (see: Matthew Sheppard), and those who perpetrated such horrible acts should be made to pay for what they did. But homosexuals have not been systematically enslaved, have not been legally treated as "property", have NEVER in the course of human history been denied the right to vote based on their sexuality...I could go on and on with this list. Equating the boycott of a private company with this country's historical treatment of minorities only trivializes the suffering of those minorities and negates any point the homosexual community might otherwise have had.

And let's not forget, the boycott is because of the company's support for an athletic event that is, by its very nature, discriminatory (Similiarly, the Disney boycott was not because of their providing benefits for gay couples but because those benefits were denied to HETEROSEXUALS in domestic partnerships, which is, again, discriminatory).