The journey from there to here
Published on June 10, 2005 By Gideon MacLeish In Politics

Although I am finding more and more individuals consider it to be irrelevant, the US Constitution is STILL supposed to be the supreme law of our land, and until it is declared null and void, it should be respected. Some of the agencies that consistently and wantonly violate the US Constitution are the CPS agencies of various states. How? Well, let me detail it further here than in previous article responses. Let's start with the fifth amendment:

Article V. No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

In most cases where the child has been removed from their parents, the parents have never even been charged with, let alone convicted of, a crime. Legally, CPS cases are considered a "civil" matter (although as a parent, I would consider having my children taken from me to be a penalty far worse than the criminal penalty of incarceration). Children are removed from the home, often without ever being returned, without the parent being allowed their "day in court".

Let me say that I have no problem with the removal of a child from the home if abuse or neglect is deemed to constitute an imminent risk to their health and safety. There must, however, be an established set of objective criteria to determine this risk, the search should be conducted by trained law enforcement officers, and if sufficient evidence is NOT found for trial, the children should be returned home immediately. No exceptions.

Moving on, let's take a look at amendment 6, shall we?

Article VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

In most CPS cases, the parents are not given a speedy and public trial, and almost never given a jury trial. Further, CPS investigations are based on anonymous reporting that fails to allow the accused to be confronted by the witnesses against them.

When I argued this point in another forum, the illustration of an axe murderer was used. Ironically enough, though, the axe murderer DOES have the right to confront their accusers; parents accused of abuse or neglect of their children do not. Statistically speaking, abusive parents, even if they ARE guilty, are far less likely to constitute a danger to their neighbors if they are realeased than is an axe murderer.

To go further, simply because you do not believe a Constitutional right should exist is not just cause to nullify it in a court of law. The constitution was created for a reason.

Moving on, I'll highlight amendment 13, sections 1 and 2:

Article XIII.
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

In one of the cases I detailed, the court ordered the mother to obtain employment (in addition to the father's employment), and for the couple to pay $500 in child support for their children. Though the motives of the court are highly suspect, that isn't relevant to THIS argument. What IS relevant is that the court ordered employment constitutes involuntary servitude.

If the parents were applying for government aid, then, yes, the government should determine that they should be working to seek employment. But as they are not seeking government aid, the court has no legal right to make such a stipulation. Knowing this, courts set child support payments at a percentage of wages for noncustodial fathers rather than requiring them to seek a second or third job to meet a set payment such as this. Because this is case specific, however, it may not apply to the CPS system as a whole, but it DOES apply in this particular case.

Now, for amendment 14:

Article XIV.
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The removal of children without due process denies parents of equal protection under the law. Their financial inability to pay means that they do not have legal representation in an action where most are incapable of managing their own defense.

The laws protecting our children are, in their origins, at least, good laws. The means of enforcement have been undertaken by a system that ignores the legal rights and responsibilities in the process of enforcement. The children of the wealthy are rarely taken from their home; when they are, criminal charges nearly always follow, as the wealthy CAN afford legal representation to press their constitutional rights. The children of the poor are targetted as a supply source to provide much needed children for adoption, and the constitutional rights of the parents are routinely violated.

You may not care for the constitution or the protections it provides. But if you are blogging here, I can virtually guarantee that without constitutional safeguards, the contents of your blog could potentially be a grounds for indictment in criminal action. The constitution and its amendments were enacted for the protection and preservation of rights for American citizens. And when the constitution is repeatedly being violated in regards to the rights of ANYONE, it is our duty to speak out.


Comments
on Jun 10, 2005
I think I agree with everything you said here. And to paraphrase (because I like paraphrasing): Constitution is the starting point for our laws, CPS ignores the constitution, CPS is bad (maybe not all of the time, but way too often).
Now on to the bit where we seem to be disagreeing/miscommunicating: anonymous reporters. If the anonymous report is used as evidence, then they are a witness, and yes, accused should be able to face them. But an anonymous caller should not be evidence, nor used as such, since it is anonymous. Used as reason to look for evidence, sure, but evidence itself no. And since it's not evidence, it's not a witness. If the case can't hold without using it as a witness then there is no case, and the parents shouldn't lose their kids.
Or we can agree to disagree, you thinking I'm a sad constitution ignoring, and me thinking your missing the forest for the trees.
on Jun 10, 2005
Danny,

The problem is anonymous reporting is used as a bullying tactics. Now what you're advocating for are "shield" laws where CPS knows the names of the reporters but is not required to divulge them unless they are used as witnesses. I have no problem with shield laws, per se. But anonymous reporting allows a person to make a consistent pattern of harassment against a variety of individuals with no fear of reprisal (filing a false report, anyone?) Even if CPS investigates a case and finds absolutely no merit, the report is already "on the books" (and suspicion of guilt is assumed in future reports). Thus the harasser can establish a pattern of bullying? Do you see where I'm going with this.

A better form of protection would be a "shield" law, which allows the source's name to be undivulged unless they are used as a witness or unless they establish a consistent pattern of false reports, which can be used as grounds for prosecution against the accuser. In my case, it is essential, for instance, that certain family members not know where we are, as there are those with a 30 plus year pattern of filing false reports as a means of retribution against their enemies. This puts us at the mercy of the abusers with no legal recourse.
on Jun 10, 2005

To clarify the difference, Danny, Deep Throat was protected under the "shield law". His identity was always known by Woodward and Bernstein.

Every report of criminal wrongdoing should have a name attached to it...even if that name isn't released. Because anonymous calls are allowed, information from those calls is used against parents routinely. Because they are anonymous, CPS truly doesn't know the source. Changing the law to a "shield" law would allow CPS to know the source and properly release the source if the evidence is useful. Frankly, it would help both wrongfully accused families AND the system, as TRUE cases of abuse or neglect couldn't be thrown out in higher courts due to the unconstitutionality of the evidence. So, both sides would benefit.

on Jun 10, 2005

It is unfortunate, but the slippery slope was opened when parents were denied a saying in their childs abortion.  It was then that we knew that parents no longer mattered, and that the USSR style of orphanage raising of children had won.  This is just an extension of that. 

This is the one reason I vote republican.  I hope some day to reverse this nazi laws that have swept through america due to "feel good, do nothing" liberal laws.

on Jun 10, 2005
Every report of criminal wrongdoing should have a name attached to it...even if that name isn't released. Because anonymous calls are allowed, information from those calls is used against parents routinely. Because they are anonymous, CPS truly doesn't know the source.


OK, now I have a misunderstanding of how the system works. I did not realize that anonymous reporting was truly anonymous in the sense that even CPS did not know or have record of the identity of the person making the claim.

I agree that that is a problem and should be changed.

Changing the law to a "shield" law would allow CPS to know the source and properly release the source if the evidence is useful. Frankly, it would help both wrongfully accused families AND the system, as TRUE cases of abuse or neglect couldn't be thrown out in higher courts due to the unconstitutionality of the evidence. So, both sides would benefit.


I would absolutely support what you're advocating here.
on Jun 11, 2005

Texas,

Yes, I think many people misunderstand the system. I don't have a problem with protecting the source so long as the evidence provided by the source is not used to obtain a warrant or as evidence against the accused. If the evidence is used in either of the aforementioned fashions, it should be deemed inadmissable unless the shield is removed and the accused allowed to confront their accuser. But there should ALWAYS be a name attached to the report. An example I can provide here in town is one particular individual who uses the anonymous reporting system repeatedly to attack indidivuals who cross him (I know...a DIRECT threat was issued to me in a phone call with him, and shortly after, we received confirmation that he had indeed done what he said he would do; the family I have been chronicling had their children removed as a direct result of crossing him). Individuals like this are no more than bullies, and a system should be in place to prosecute them for a pattern of repeated false reports and harassment. Because it is not(plus the whole "confront your accuser" right), I am completely opposed to the system in place