The journey from there to here

Congratulations, Howard Dean, for proving yet again that there is no room for moderates and people of faith within the Democratic Party. You've pretty much guaranteed yourself at least an honorable mention for my June "Meathead of the Month" award...and it's only the 8th.

You see, by characterizing the GOP as a "white, Christian" party, you made the implicit statement that the Democratic Party is NOT. And, since you are white, and a self described "Christian", one would have to question why you would make that statement. Are you embarrassed by your race or your faith? It would appear so, since both are implied as negative labels in your statement. The fact that you are the HEAD of the Democratic Party and not, say, Al Sharpton or Charles Rangel (in fact, HAS there been a minority head of the DNC? If so, I'm unaware of it...and I know THIS for a fact....not ONE nonwhite, nonChristian presidential or vice presidential candidate has EVER clinched the nomination for your party. Why not a little research before you talk out of your ass, Howie?)

I made the statement a long time ago that the Democratic Party was leaving no room for moderates. Your statements implicitly state that I, as a white Christian, am not welcome in your party.

Further, in your response to criticism, you state that the Democratic Party is the "party of inclusion". Oh, really, Howie? Let's research this. Would your party welcome with open arms an anti-gun control, pro-life, small government moderate?

I thought not.


Comments
on Jun 08, 2005

not ONE nonwhite, nonChristian presidential or vice presidential candidate has EVER clinched the nomination for your party

Uh, not to pick nits, but Joe Lieberman?

on Jun 08, 2005
I stand corrected. But as a side note, he's the ONLY one...and from the "party of inclusion", no less!
on Jun 08, 2005
BTW, you are correct about the DNC Chair position.  It has always been WASPS.
on Jun 08, 2005
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Wednesday, June 08, 2005BTW, you are correct about the DNC Chair position. It has always been WASPS.


wasps??? what about the poor bees? and hornets? how about the much discriminated africanized bees?
on Jun 09, 2005

how about the much discriminated africanized bees?

You can go invite them, I aint getting near them!  Discriminate hell!  They are hornets in greater numbers, but the same temperment!

on Jun 11, 2005
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on Jun 12, 2005
While I've never been a Deaniac, and I would have chosen better phrasing, Howard Dean was speaking accurately. The right wing of the Republican party has co-opted Christianity to mean whatever it says it means, rather than reflecting the teachings of Jesus Christ. This isn't the first time the faith has been co-opted in this manner... it was the very reasons our forebears set out to create this then new nation... one that would protect faith from being co-opted by government, and would respect and protect the religious rights of those of differing faiths from by a majority of any one religion.

People of faith, whether Christian or otherwise should take a stand against the right wing co-option of faith, especially Christians who truly believe in and seek to live their lives as Christ intended. It's painfully apparent to me, a Catholic that neither George Bush, or his right wing "moral" majority do not practice the values Christ taught, I don't believe I'm exagerating when I say that if Christ came to Earth today, and preached the same message he did originally, in the same way, Mr. Bush would have him investigated by Homeland Security. What is plain to me is that the only God they worship is the almighty dollar and the power it brings. They impose mass suffering, and take no personal responsibility for their actions.

As a Christian one is obligated to speak out against the imposition of suffering on the most powerless, one is required to care for others as Christ advocated. What about our brave young men and women sacrificing their very lives in our military? What about the fact that Mr. Bush came into office desiring war with Iraq, was informed that the attacks that followed on 9/11 could happen and ignored it, that Bush used those attacks as a rationale to start a war in Iraq, and lied to us, and the troops he is obligated to act responsibly for. What about the fact that it was more important to Bush to give billions of our tax dollars to his corporate contributers/"contracters", while refusing to properly equip our service men and women, the lives lost/maimed because of not enough body and vehicle armor? What about the fact that Bush only fights to protect his tax cut, placing the burden on many of the same people fighting in Iraq, many of which come home to find their jobs gone, their homes lost, their families suffering, to find they have little to no coverage even for injuries they received fighting on behalf of their country?

If your faith is in Christ, having heard what Christ advocated, how can your understanding be that the place for Christians is in the Republican party, when the leadership of that party makes a mockery of Jesus Christ's teachings and life? I think any Christian who is so blind as to think that perhaps might be guilty of the same bearing of false witness to Christ that Bush and his cohorts do.. wearing ones faith on ones sleeve, but rationalizing imposing suffering, ignoring the duty to treat others as one would treat Christ. I have to say to you Gideon, you might be blowing a trumpet, but it's not in service to the interests of good Christians who seek to follow Christ's teachings.
on Jun 12, 2005

As a Christian one is obligated to speak out against the imposition of suffering on the most powerless, one is required to care for others as Christ advocated. What about our brave young men and women sacrificing their very lives in our military? What about the fact that Mr. Bush came into office desiring war with Iraq, was informed that the attacks that followed on 9/11 could happen and ignored it, that Bush used those attacks as a rationale to start a war in Iraq, and lied to us, and the troops he is obligated to act responsibly for. What about the fact that it was more important to Bush to give billions of our tax dollars to his corporate contributers/"contracters", while refusing to properly equip our service men and women, the lives lost/maimed because of not enough body and vehicle armor? What about the fact that Bush only fights to protect his tax cut, placing the burden on many of the same people fighting in Iraq, many of which come home to find their jobs gone, their homes lost, their families suffering, to find they have little to no coverage even for injuries they received fighting on behalf of their country?


Most of this is flat-out wrong and untrue. Especially your last line. That in itself is a flat out LIE and I'd be willing to bet you have no proof of it. ANY injuries recieved during war by our soldiers is 100% covered! Your insinuation than Bush knew about 9/11 prior to the attack is another falsehood. This insinuation has been disproven so my times that I lost count. Now go back and do some research.
on Jun 12, 2005
I think the number of Republicans that believe Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11 is easily balanced by Democrats that believe Bush was part of a zionist plot on 9/11...