The journey from there to here

In a recent blog, the blogger writes:

 During the morning announcements, I heard that some sort of "Love Winnipeg" group was doing a BBQ in the parking and giving away free hot dogs. I figured they were some sort of civic responsibility/anti-littering group, so I went. While in line for the hot dogs (there's obviously a line whenever people give away free hot dogs),

For brevity's sake, I will fill in the blanks for those of you who haven't read the post. The gist of it was, the group handing out the hot dogs was from a local church, and handed out tracts to the people standing in line.

Here, however, is what they DIDN'T do. They didn't preach a sermon. They didn't ask anyone in line to "receive Christ". They didn't take down the names of the individuals who received the hot dogs. They simply handed out hot dogs and tracts to the students. Heck, they didn't even quiz the students on the tracts' contents to receive the hot dogs. The tracts could simply have been tossed in the nearest dumpster and no harm, no foul.

But instead, the blogger uses this as his personal platform for railing against the rights of Christians to speak or hand out literature in a public school.

What struck me, though, is there was no problem with the hot dogs. This person apparently didn't have a problem with eating the weenies, although they had undoubtedly been touched by the (hopefully gloved) hands of the despised Christians. So, basically, they ate the food and spat on the one giving the food. There's gratitude for you.

We live in a society that has sadly confused "freedom of religion" with "freedom to stifle the religion of all those who oppose you" and "freedom of speech" with "freedom of speech that agrees with MINE". Thankfully, the founding fathers were wise enough to have not included such verbiage in our constitution, although I cannot speak to the Canadian constitution, where this unspeakable atrocity occurred.

What the liberals in this country and around the world need to understand, though, is that my freedom of speech is inextricably linked with yours. Denial of my rights could well mean a future suppression of your rights when and if political opinion shifts against you.

To be fair, though, the liberals are not alone in their misconception. The rather valid question was asked if we would feel the same if it was a Muslim group. Let me use this illustration from my own experience to answer.

Some years back, a Wiccan group wanted to put up a cemetary in our county. I am not Wiccan, do not particularly care for their faith, but I knew that what they were trying to do could potentially affect the religious liberties of us ALL. So I signed my name to their petitions and spoke as a staunch supporter of their rights, knowing well that what I did to protect their rights could later affect my own. It was not an endorsement of Wiccan that prompted my actions, but a love of liberty and a desire to see that liberty protected for my children to know.

So, be careful, folks. The rights you save, could be your own.


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on Jun 02, 2005

Gideon,

Why not just refer people to the other Blog since it still is active?
Link
on Jun 02, 2005

Thanks for the link, sushi. I didn't add it because my time is limited and I have a lot of things to do. Hunting down/copy and pasting the URL can be a chore at times.

At any rate, thanks for throwing it in.

on Jun 02, 2005
Sometimes a Hot Dog is just a hot dog! ;~D

But I still say I'd join Latour in the broucher BBQ, just for the fun of it! ;~D
on Jun 02, 2005
But Gid,

I do like the title.

That is basically how I feel towards Religion pushers
on Jun 02, 2005

#4 by sushiK
Thursday, June 02, 2005





But Gid,

I do like the title.

That is basically how I feel towards Religion pushers


Given the circumstances around what Gid is saying is, if you don't want to take their pamphlet then don't take their food either! You don't have to read it. As a matter of fact you can throw it in the garbage. But if your going to take their charity (and that's what it was/is) then *you* should be the one to STFU!
on Jun 02, 2005
'That is basically how I feel towards Religion pushers"

It also happens to be how I feel about anti-Religion pushers. Only, hold on a moment... why is that when I want the nihilists and the secular humanists to back off, I'm some kind of psycho fundie who's stifling debate and repressing the sheeple and building up a theocracy, but when you want the religious-types to back off, you get credit for being a reasonable person who just wants to be left alone?
on Jun 02, 2005
Dude, it's not like you were forced to sit through a lecture or speech. You chose to go over to their stand, you chose to take the free food...you could have given your hot dog back once you saw the pamphlet, but you didn't do that.

I think that you're going to have many, many reasons to protest in your lifetime...but this just isn't one of them.
on Jun 02, 2005
Dharma and all others

You are confusing me with Latour.

I am just someone who feels that Religion has NO place advertising itself or recruiting new members in Public Schools.

They should be forced to peddle their stuff from the sidewalk
on Jun 02, 2005
sushiK, on what basis do you ban Religions from schoolyards? Would you ban PETA, or Planned Parenthood, or Greenpeace, or the ROTC, or The March of Dimes, or MADD?
on Jun 02, 2005
You are confusing me with Latour.


Yep, you're right...I am. Sorry!
on Jun 02, 2005
on what basis do you ban Religions from schoolyards? Would you ban PETA, or Planned Parenthood, or Greenpeace, or the ROTC, or The March of Dimes, or MADD?


Good question.
on Jun 02, 2005
It could have been worse...the weiners could have been boiled in holy water!
on Jun 03, 2005

on what basis do you ban Religions from schoolyards? Would you ban PETA, or Planned Parenthood, or Greenpeace, or the ROTC, or The March of Dimes, or MADD?


Good question.


Uhhh guys? I think your going to find that this is centered around "Canada". So "everything" quoted above has absolutely NO bearing! And BTW "sushiK" I also got you mixed up with latour. My apologies!
on Jun 03, 2005

Am I the only one who finds it sad that borderline pornography in a public place is regarded as free speech, while religious discussion is considered offensive.

Something is seriously wrong here!

on Jun 03, 2005
I think the hot dogs are worse than the handouts, do you guys know what they put in that stuff?
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