The journey from there to here

This article is the first in a series designed to show the flaws of certain arguments of apologetics. My reasons for doing so can be seen in my previous article.

One favorite story of mine is an apocryphal story that vets of many wars will swear was true of at least one man in their unit. The man wears a star of david, a crescent, a yin/yang symbol and every symbol of faith he can find. He goes to worship of every faith he can find. His rationalization is that, in the event he is killed in battle, he will go to heaven (I always thought an interesting story could be developed around such a soldier being condemned because he got every religion but the "right" one...but I digress). This rationalization, in a nutshell is in line with what is known as Pascal's wager (named for the mathemetician/philosopher Blaise Pascal). The idea is that the consequences of unbelief (eternal damnation) are greater if religion is true than are the consequences of belief (and end of all things) if religion is untrue.

Pascal's wager provides an interesting starting point for theological discussion, but that's about it. Any faith based on Pascal's wager is, in my contention, not "faith" at all, but rather well developed superstition. You could similarly argue throwing spilled salt over your left shoulder based on the idea that it certainly could do no harm.

This argument, while patently obvious, is still heavily used by many evangelicals. It is not an argument FOR faith of any kind, but AGAINST unbelief. And an argument against unbelief has its basis in the negative (the consequences of unbelief) rather than the positive (the rewards of belief).

Feel free to add your own comments on this argument.


Comments
on May 19, 2005
"Another favorite statement by religious philosophers refers to Pascal’s Wager. Pascal was an eminent seventeenth century mathematician who struggled with the contradictions presented by Christian theology.

His wager consists of the statement: It is advantageous to believe in god because the worst thing that can happen is that you have spent your life believing in something that is untrue and you will end up just as dead as everyone else will. However, if you do not believe in god and if god actually exists, then god’s actual existence will matter in the extreme because you will be in big trouble with Him.

The problem with Pascal’s wager lies in the reality that a person cannot pretend to believe in God just for the sake of a wager. The obvious insincerity in pretending a belief in God for the purpose of a wager makes an actual belief in God impossible.

Theologians have used Pascal’s wager to admonish people to believe in God, just in case. This situation justifies the old definition of theologians as persons who are looking in a coal-bin on a dark night for a black cat that is not there."

on May 19, 2005
excellent addition, Icon. Thanks
on May 19, 2005
That's from www.rationality.net
on May 19, 2005
Or maybe if there is a God, he/she/it just hates smartasses who pretend to be in their religon so they don't go to hell. In it's original form, Pascal's wager also assumes Christianity to be the true religion, so what if someone takes the wager, goes to church all his life, dies, and realized that Islam or Judaism was the true religion after all. It also threatens "unvelievers" with hell, a place most of them (at least the serious ones) don't even believe in. Plus it also assumes that you can't get into heaven by being a good person of a different religion. Assuming heaven does exist, it assumes I will be persecuted for being wrong about it (in which case, I will realize my folly), rather than rewarded for any good that I have done in my life (say, helping the poor, not hurting anyone, etc.).

It is advantageous to believe in god because the worst thing that can happen is that you have spent your life believing in something that is untrue and you will end up just as dead as everyone else will.


You also waste many many Sunday mornings that you can not get back, and could have been better spent.
on May 19, 2005
This is something I used to think about and had discussed with friends over a camp fire many times. I have some friends that are extremely religious (if you can call it that). They go to church, go to confession, talk to everyone else about it and warn us we will go to hell if we don't convert or take it seriously. Then the guy get's drunk every weekend, gets in a car and has no problem with that. When we ask him what if he hits someone and kills them while drinking and driving, isn't he worried he won't end up in heaven. He basically tells us that since he goes to church and confession God will know he didn't mean it and will end up in heaven. Basically he is saying that it's a get out of hell free card so you can act irresponsibly. (In my opnion if you know that you can't drive well while drunk and you can't rationilize that I am impared while driving and it doesn't count. Since you know before hand that drinking will lead to that. In the end this is a form of Russian roulette.)

Now a person that doesn't go to church but leads his life in an exemplary manner (treats everyone with respect, helps out all the time, gives their money to the homeless guy on the corner) will go to hell because of the one fact that he does not go to church. I just find that morally wrong.

Now every religion tells us that God is forgiving and just. By my definition someone forgiving and just would condemn a person that put's other peoples lives at risk and is only looking out for their personal gratification over a person who actually leads thier life in what the way we consider to be good.

So it comes down to is God really just? If he is then religion would not have any bearing on whether a person goes to heaven on or, only based on their action. If the only way to go to heaven is to be religious and in the end how you lead your life has no influence in the matter then you can classify as God being unjust. So if religion ais wrong about what God is like then they are probably wrong about a great deal of things.