The journey from there to here
Published on May 3, 2005 By Gideon MacLeish In Religion

On Thursday, May 5, Islamic prayer warriors will be out in force. They will be gathering on the city square in America's largest cities, prayer mats in hand, to pray for our nation.

This fictional news blurb was written to make a point. Most conservative Christians would be somewhat disturbed by the above statement, as they would a similar statement regarding Wiccans, Buddhists, or other nonChristian religious groups.

Frankly, it doesn't disturb me. What DOES disturb me is that Christian groups are doing the same thing on the public squares of many communities, and widely advertising it.

There should be nothing at all offensive about the Christian faith, if practiced to the standards preached by Christ. If anything, the Christian faith should be compelling due to the faithful and loving practices of its followers. Sadly, many nonChristians' experiences (and the experience of some CHRISTIANS as well), have been anything but. Christianity has been used as a weapon too often by those who have no idea what the faith entails.

I support the National day of prayer, but only when it is recognized as a national day of prayer for ALL faiths, and not for one. Personally, I don't need a declaration of the president in order to pray, nor, in fact, should anyone who considers themselves to be religious.

I look for the day when the National Day of Prayer is a day for ALL faiths to celebrate their faith. And then, and only then, will I stand on the public square; when Muslims, Jews, Christians, Wiccans, Buddhists, and all other men and women of faith can stand beside me and unite, if not in faith, in prayer and concern for our country.

Until then, I'll stay home.


Comments
on May 03, 2005
Thank you Gid!

on May 03, 2005
Before I got to the second paragraph I was thinking 'They are? Good for them. I hope no one trips over those mats though'. Then you had to go and ruin it by making it fictional But still, prayer is good and it would be good to see more people out there, regardless of religion. Although, it might be my lack of knowledge and such, but do wiccans or buddhists pray?
on May 03, 2005
Different religions have different holy days. Wiccans celebrate the first day of every season (or maybe just the first day of spring and winter. I'm not sure). That's where Easter and Christmas come from.
on May 03, 2005

Icon,

Your response was WAY off topic. National Day of Prayer is NOT a holy day, it is a congressionally recognized day for prayer in the US. It is political, NOT religious.

on May 03, 2005
Why would someone pray on a day that their religion doesn't recognize?
on May 03, 2005

Prayer is a conversation with your God.  Personally, I dont like to have an intimate conversation with Him in the middle of a crowded square.  But for those that do, more power to them.

We live in a very mixed neighborhood.  And some of my neighbors are Shintoist.  I have witnessed one of their funerals (I think it was the grandmother).  A very moving experience and I tried to be respectful of it.  Not knowing what to do, I said my own little prayer.

So why would I worry about what some hyporcits think?  Let them pray to mecca twice a day, or Buddha or Siddhartha or whoever. 

on May 03, 2005
My point is that if someone's religion doesn't recognize that particular day as a day of prayer, why should they pray on that day? Demanding that someone pray isn't going to work.
Petitioning God isn't going to work.
on May 03, 2005
This is a confusing article to me. I don't see anything wrong with the hypothetical situation, nor would I see it as wrong from any other group.

We can't sit back and pretend we are a homogeneous, whitebread nation. We are diverse groups living together. If one group wants to make a collective statement through word or deed, I'm not sure what the problem would be.

I dunno. Are you a conservative Christian, Gid? It seems like you are trying to tell me what I would think about something. Are you sure you know?
on May 03, 2005
Petitioning God isn't going to work.


Yea, I never did win the lottery.

Maybe next time I should buy a ticket? naaaaaa
on May 04, 2005

Are you a conservative Christian, Gid? It seems like you are trying to tell me what I would think about something.

Yes, Baker, I AM a conservative Christian; I thought you knew that by now. You are rather open to diverse faiths, and I respect that, but I find myself all too often shunned in my own circles for respecting other faiths. So I DO know what I am talking about (it is possible, too, that I may have encountered the
"exceptions", but since I have lived and worshipped in Chicago, Tacoma, Washington, Enid, Oklahoma, Oshkosh, Wisconsin, Pahrump, Nevada, and now Texas, it is extremely unlikely that I just happen across those "exceptions" everywhere I live).

And, Icon, sorry you don't get it...(sigh). (here's a hint: National Day of Prayer is NOT a Christian holiday...yeesh).

on May 04, 2005
Did I mention Christians?
on May 04, 2005
Gid: it was the "conservative" part that I was unsure about, not the Christian part. There are a lot of people I know that I consider conservative Christians who would be offended if I called them that, lol.

I dunno, maybe I have lived my life around all the exceptions, but I can't really get my head around there being a problem in a community with people of whatever faith praying. Now, granted, if wiccans wanted to mess around much I can see the whole witchcraft thing; i doubt small town America is ready for that.

The muslim thing, though, I doubt would turn many heads in this day and age. Maybe ten years ago.
on May 06, 2005

There are a lot of people I know that I consider conservative Christians who would be offended if I called them that, lol.

. I understand. I take umbrage when my politics are called conservative, but not when my faith is branded such.