Personally, while I don't agree with your choice, it is your choice to make. And I wouldn't call you a kook because of it.

I did allow my children to get most of the vaccines, but not all of them.  And none of the flu ones.  The flu mutates so quickly that those are rarely very effective (I did get hate stares from health workers on that one).

Guess I am one of the lucky ones.  I was born before 68, before 57 even!  Dont ask!

 

while I don't agree with your choice, it is your choice to make

And that is the only concession I ask.

I did allow my children to get most of the vaccines, but not all of them.

Unfortunately, with many health care professionals, it's now given to you as an "all or nothing" proposition (which is my strongest point in opposing vaccination programs); either you oppose ALL of them, or you have to have the full set as recommended by the state (including the chicken pox vaccine). If we were given choices and proper information regarding pros and cons of vaccines, I would be inclined to withdraw many of my objections to the program. After all, vaccinations are based on the principle of homeopathy, which I, as a holistic health practitioner tend to endorse.

I won't ask. But let me state that as for as the flu vaccines go, my kids don't all receive it. My son who is asthmatic usually does and it's an immense help. My toddler never do beccause her doc says she's not a health risk. But this year I plan to tell him to give it to her because when she gets the flu it's nonstop and very often throughout the whole fall season. It's never ending visits to see the doctor and it's hard to see her like that.

Where regular vaccines are concerned, for diseases, hep b and all that, yes, they all, recieved those.

I have always questioned the logic of requiring vaccinations for kids. For most my adult life, it was more of a civil liberties question, the government has no business telling me what chemicals I have to put in my body or that of my kids!

Then I went to college and took "Human Anatomy & Physiology". There I learned that our immune systems aren't fully developed until around age 5, and at birth we barely have much of an immune system at all. Between that class and a few others that a person who ends up with an AAS in Health Sciences ends up taking, I also learned that the purpose of Health Departments is to educate and inform the public about health related issues.

Now, what part of "educate and inform" includes "require"? What part of "aren't fully developed until around age 5" do the immunization police not understand? I bet most people still don't know that, in the 80's a federal law was passed requiring the government to take financial responsibility for anyone who contracts Polio, since the ONLY people who get Polio anymore, get it as a reaction to the Polio vaccine!!!

I'm with you on this, I have nothing against vaccinations in general, and they should be offered (especially to anyone 5 and older), anyone who wants to "require" vaccinations though, does so out of either ignorance, or political motivations.

The flu vaccines don't work; I used to work in a hospital, and I know many coworkers who took them and got sick anyway.
I guess you home school your kids, Gid? Otherwise they wouldn't be allowed in.
It's your choice, but I have to confess that I don't see why you refuse to avail yourself of defenses against things like polio and smallpox. Those can kill you.
Personally, I would feel guilty as hell if my kid got sick and was seriously affected or worse, killed, by a disease that could have been prevented by vaccination that I chose not to give him/her.

Polio, since the ONLY people who get Polio anymore, get it as a reaction to the Polio vaccine!!!

Hmm...perhaps I should amend my above post, but I had the polio vaccine, and I never got it.

While we DO homeschool our children, most states allow for personal choice exceptions, and ALL states allow for religious exemptions (a major reason why I'm an ordained minister, though I never intend to make a dime off of my ordination).

Helps with taxes too!

It's your choice, but I have to confess that I don't see why you refuse to avail yourself of defenses against things like polio and smallpox. Those can kill you.

As stated before, the states don't allow you to "pick and choose" the vaccinations you do/don't want for your children; it's an all or nothing proposition. While those things "can" kill you, if they are present, it is because the vaccinations HAVEN'T worked. Think about it.

I guess you home school your kids, Gid? Otherwise they wouldn't be allowed in.

Don't they have to be vaccinated to attend public school, Gid? (or do you guys home school them...i think you may have mentioned that before, but I'm not sure.)

 

While we DO homeschool our children, most states allow for personal choice exceptions, and ALL states allow for religious exemptions (a major reason why I'm an ordained minister, though I never intend to make a dime off of my ordination).

Personally, I would feel guilty as hell if my kid got sick and was seriously affected or worse, killed, by a disease that could have been prevented by vaccination that I chose not to give him/her.

And how, pray tell, would that compare to the guilt you felt if your child died or had a developmental disability due to the vaccinations you gave them intending to PROTECT them? While those are relatively small risks, they're about equal with the risk of a child in this age of vaccinations actually dying from the diseases. A LOT of people have made a LOT of money since most people are deluded into believing that vaccinations are mandatory; enough money, in fact, to possibly motivate them into hiding the truth about the negatives of vaccines. Just something to think about.

And how, pray tell, would that compare to the guilt you felt if your child died or had a developmental disability due to the vaccinations you gave them intending to PROTECT them? While those are relatively small risks, they're about equal with the risk of a child in this age of vaccinations actually dying from the diseases. A LOT of people have made a LOT of money since most people are deluded into believing that vaccinations are mandatory; enough money, in fact, to possibly motivate them into hiding the truth about the negatives of vaccines. Just something to think about.

Well, if that happened, at least I would know I did all I could, within my own power, to protect them....the odds ARE small. It happens, but not all that often.
By vaccinating them, I'm trying to make an effort at protecting them. If I didn't vaccinate, I'd be leaving them completely unprotected.
I wouldn't have done anything...which is worse, to try or not to try?

(a major reason why I'm an ordained minister, though I never intend to make a dime off of my ordination).

So, you became an ordained minister just so you could manipulate the system? AAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHA That's great! Not sure I agree with the ethics of it, but it's great! It's like becoming a cop so you can get free coffee and Krispy Kremes at the Qwikee-Mart!

get free coffee and Krispy Kremes at the Qwikee-Mart!

Qwikee Mart Sells Duncan Donuts, not Krispy Kremes.

So, you became an ordained minister just so you could manipulate the system? AAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHA That's great! Not sure I agree with the ethics of it, but it's great! It's like becoming a cop so you can get free coffee and Krispy Kremes at the Qwikee-Mart

No, I said a MAJOR part! Frankly, I feel that holding a person to a published creed to establish their rights under "freedom of religion" constitutes an establishment of religion by establishing, not one, but several, religions, and is therefore unconstitutional, but I can't afford a high priced lawyer to test the case to SCOTUS. So I would appreciate you having some respect for the rights of the constitution without an outright mockery of my position (this is not your normal angle, right; I'm a tad disappointed!)

To elaborate further, since you persist, however, I will tell you that I am a holistic health practitioner. A spiritualist advised me years ago that ordination affords some legal protection over your practice, as long as you don't purport to be a medical practitioner and in fact advise your clients to seek licensed medical advice before attempting a holistic therapy.

Since that explanation is tangential, however, I chose to keep it on topic!

So I would appreciate you having some respect for the rights of the constitution without an outright mockery of my position (this is not your normal angle, right; I'm a tad disappointed!)

I'm not mocking you, Gid, I just thought it was kinda clever of you, that's all. I don't know your whole story, so I guess I misunderstood....sorry to have offended you.

Qwikee Mart Sells Duncan Donuts, not Krispy Kremes.

D'OH!