The journey from there to here
Published on January 10, 2005 By Gideon MacLeish In Religion

Michael Newdow is causing me to appreciate the relative saneness of the Madeline Murray O'Hare era.

Terpfan has kindly listed a couple of Newdow's latest suits, which include placing a ban on the hand on the Bible at the presidential inauguration. He has, in short, made a VERY bad name for atheists.

I have known many atheists in my day, and I have had a good deal of respect for them. Though we disagree on a fundamental level, they have reached their conclusions through their own intellectual reasonings and personal exploration. My Christian beliefs have come from the same process. Most atheists welcome and invite the free exchange of ideas.

Newdow is NOT an atheist. He is an ANTITHEIST. There's a world of difference.

An atheist believes there is no God. An antitheist believes not only that there is no God, but that those who believe in God are stupid and their beliefs must be pounded out on the altar of secularity.

An atheist has no problem with the pledge saying "under God; they just ask that they not be forced to recite it. An antitheist has a problem with the word "God" being used in any public forum, and will fight to have it removed, at the cost of the rights of those who DO believe.

An atheist has no problem with the practice of religion. An antitheist sees any practice of religion as an intrusion on THEIR rights, and will fight to remove same.

I have spoken with many of my atheist friends, and asked why anyone would feel offended, for instance, to attend an event inside a church. If God is not real, there should be no fear on their part in walking into that church, and they shouldn't feel offended if a family event was held inside a church. Most of my atheist friends have agreed (it's very similar to a vegetarian who tactfully arranges with a host of a barbeque to bring their own "meat". Most folks of religious persuasion will willingly tolerate and even embrace a loved one, so long as their own personal beliefs aren't trampled).

I knew an atheist politician once. At all of his swearing ins, he put his hand on a nicely leatherbound book that contained several historical and political documents of the United States and the state he represented, feeling it was a more appropriate object. He was never challenged in doing this, and in fact, many other politicians have done the same. George W. Bush is, as every president before him, a man who has at least some respect for the Holy Bible. He has every right to have his beliefs represented at his inauguration. Michael Newdow is a well funded minority who is trying to oppress the majority with his narrowly held beliefs, and who has very limited respect for the constitution (..."nor prohibit the free exercise thereof"), or, for that matter, of any who oppose him. Citizens of the United States should be able to sue Newdow and all of those who represent him for their time and energies that have tied up the courts with frivolous lawsuits to represent the views of a bigot.

Respectfully submitted,

Gideon MacLeish

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Comments
on Jan 10, 2005
Excellent post, Gideon!

I agree with your Antitheist label vs. atheist. This guy is making regular old atheists look bad. He's tying up the courts, wasting the time and money of a lot of people, and he seems to just like having his face in front of the cameras.

Lawsuits and religion hatred are this guy's drugs. He's addicted, and he needs help.

Once again, very good post.
on Jan 10, 2005
Interesting post Gideon..... I wonder if Newdow will remain an anti-theist on his death bed?

preacherman
on Jan 10, 2005
Excellant Point!  I had never contemplated an Anti-theist!  But what you say rings so true.  I will have to be on the look out for them and their hatred!
on Jan 11, 2005
You know something? This has got to be one of the most *excellent* pieces I have read.
on Jan 11, 2005
GM: Very good point.....one might say ~"excellent"~. The antitheist vs. the atheist. Interesting point of view. Never thought of it that way.

Preacherman:
Your point reminds me of a joke Jay Leno made a little while back. I guess a fairly famous and vocal atheist recently recanted his former position and, at the age of 80, has accepted the existence of God. Leno asked if it may have had "anything to do with the fact that he's 80?!!"
on Jan 11, 2005
Actually, Gideon, my wife and I have devised an "atheism" scale. We find ourselves at various places on the scale depending on our moods.

In the middle is regular old comfortable atheist, unconcerned and happy to be alive, happy to let people do what they want. And the opposing ends...

<------Apatheist--------------------------------------------------Atheist-------------------------------------------------Antitheist---->

Sometimes we don't care if there's a god or not, sometimes we're comfortable, and sometimes we want to bring religion down. Thought you might get a kick out of it.
on Jan 11, 2005
Excellent article Gideon, very insightful, and I think dead on.

I'm coming to similar conclusions about Kingbee and a few others, but I think you hit the nail on the head with your characterization of Newdow. He's a sadist and an egomaniac, pure and simple, and he won't be happy until he can exercise his sadistic desire to eliminate God from everyone's life.
on Jan 11, 2005
He's a sadist and an egomaniac, pure and simple, and he won't be happy until he can exercise his sadistic desire to eliminate God from everyone's life.


I just can't figure why/how we're letting a handful of people push us around like this. It's just absolutely ridiculous; people like Newdow make up a tiny minority in the population, yet the system quakes when they roar, and seems to turn a deaf ear when the majority speaks up against them.
Tell them to go get screwed; to sit down and shut up until they can come up with a majority (which is extrmemly unlikely to happen)....something. Anything.
on Jan 18, 2005

Heeeesssss Baaaaacccckkkk!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144763,00.html

I was hoping if we ignored him, he would go away.  No such luck.

on Jan 19, 2005

Reply #9 By: Dr. Guy - 1/18/2005 3:41:58 PM
Heeeesssss Baaaaacccckkkk!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144763,00.html
I was hoping if we ignored him, he would go away. No such luck.


He's back and he's gone again.