The journey from there to here

Imagine, if you will, that you are a mechanic. A customer calls you and reports that they have a blown head gasket. They ask you if you would stay on the line while they get their tools and talk them through the procedure to repair their car over the phone.

Unlikely scenario, you say? Nope. It happens to tech support. Every. Single. Day.

I work for an ISP and our tech support covers the connection. We do have PC Repair services, however, and we do make a concerted effort to provide the best support we can. But our support does not, cannot extend to free PC Repair over the phone, for several reasons, not the least of which is that it ties up the phones so that customers who need our services stay on hold while we try to perform the impossible.

And when we post concerns about the demands placed on tech support on forums, we will be accused of being uncaring and unfeeling, and will be told we're not doing our jobs. It's not about not doing our jobs, it's about not going over and above to the extent that is humanly possible.

Suppose we did attempt to fix the computer over the phone as the customer demands. What happens, then, when the customer inevitably screw up? Yup, you guessed it. We'll be the ones to blame.

Despite what some people think, PC Repair is a specialized field. As specialized as plumbing, electrical work, and many other fields. And it's not a field where we can convey all of our expertise over the phone. And certainly not for free. Sure. we'll help as much as we need to, and even beyond. But there's a certain point where phone tech support ends and PC Repair begins.


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on Apr 27, 2010

I am no tech support but that is your job is it not, I'm not saying its possible to fix all problems by talking people through stuff but lets face it this is your job you have 2 choices 1 change job or 2 just stop your wining and get on with your job.

on Apr 27, 2010

Talk about a necrothread!

on Apr 27, 2010

Yes it is Doc .... yes ... it ... is.

 

on Apr 27, 2010

He must have been on hold all this time!

on Apr 27, 2010

He must have been on hold all this time!

on Apr 27, 2010

 

I work in network infrastructure/security design and there I actually DO perform miracles (of an IT nature..hehe) by setting up/connecting networks (physical and virtual) in ways that make some people's head spin! 

Thing is, I don't come cheap.  That is my single best defense against irrational/demanding users.  You want me to make the sun shine?  Hand over the keys to that beach-house! 

But see this is where it becomes obvious that we're dealing with many seperate issues.

1.  Most people in IT do in fact look down their noses at end-users (sometimes this is hard NOT to do).  It's the classic "god-complex" that other professions (ie Doctors etc.) struggle with as well.

2.  Most end-users look at buying and using a PC as no different than buying/using a new microwave.  It is an electrical appliance is it not?  That's a problem because obviously (unless you're nuts) you don't "modify" your microwave but the second you actually begin using your PC you are in fact constantly modifying it making after-sale support of that PC a difficult and time-consuming endeavor.

3.  ISP's have (in many cases) bitten off more than they can/should chew by providing security-software suites and router-configuration etc. etc. (often due to competing with other ISP's for customers).  Once they opened the door on providing anything else but the "connection-service" all of these other issues created by unknown/uncontrollable variables became a problem dumped squarely in the laps of often under-paid/under-appreciated/under-trained support staff who then get frustrated at having to deal with non-ISP related issues while being expected to keep the call-queue moving. 

4.  To top it all off, there are little or no STANDARDS in the PC (home/end-user arena) AND the PC is the epitome of ultimate CUSTOMIZATION.  Anything goes for Joe-user and that more than anything makes "support" demands of users damn near impossible to fulfill on any appreciable level.  Every IT-guy worth his salt knows that cleaning out a virus-infected system is NOT actually returning the user's system to it's original state.  System files have been more than likely damaged by the infection and eventhough the infected files are now cleaned/removed the "damage" often remains.  So some of us will explain this to an end-user in terms of getting into an accident with their vehicle and having it repaired.  The vehicle will never be the same.  Fortunately in the PC-world we can actually revert back to the factory model (re-format) but how often is this process (or the need for this process) properly explained to an end-user?

End-users often have seemingly irrational demands of IT professionals because they don't actually understand what it is they're even asking for.  So who should be tasked with educating the joe-user?  The ISP support tech who just wants the constant "above and beyond" demands to stop?  The comp-shop tech who doesn't understand the end-user's needs because the end-user lacks even the initial comprehension to explain their needs correctly?

Here's my (somewhat tongue-in-cheek) suggestion:

I think the answer is more intelligent SOFTWARE and point-of-sale STANDARDS.  OS's need to come with "classes".  When you install an OS in the future the FIRST thing it does is ask "Beginner", "Intermediate", "Advanced" user?  Then depending on how you answered that question your OS will allow/deny you certain customization of itself while explaining it's functionality so that an end-user must finally ACCEPT responsibility of the state of their hardware/software.  That is the biggest hurdle/gap (as I see it) for the industry and the user to bridge.  The user needs to (knowingly) accept responsibility for the state of their PC and that can only happen when they actually understand their software/pc. 

End-users must recognize that a PC (and all of the software on it) is like an open-world in which and through which almost anything can be achieved.  That means exactly that...... "almost anything can be achieved"....meaning  that on any givien day things could go well........or things could end in disaster.  If the end-user is refusing to educate themselves......then FORCE it on them at the point-of-sale.  Make STANDARDS at the point-of-sale.  What kind of user are you?  Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced?  Each level comes with more/less after-sale support.

the Monk

on Apr 27, 2010

Most people in IT do in fact look down their noses at end-users (sometimes this is hard NOT to do). It's the classic "god-complex" that other professions (ie Doctors etc.) struggle with as well.

Struggle with? Come to me, Monk...

jk. You really shouldn't believe what you see on TV. Or should you?

on Apr 27, 2010

DrJBHL

Most people in IT do in fact look down their noses at end-users (sometimes this is hard NOT to do). It's the classic "god-complex" that other professions (ie Doctors etc.) struggle with as well.


Struggle with? Come to me, Monk...

jk. You really shouldn't believe what you see on TV. Or should you?

 

Well my wife's ex-husband is an emergency-room physician and after having manipulated a beating human heart during a life-saving procedure one can absolutely see/sense the god-complex about him!  

 

on Apr 27, 2010

the_Monk
 

I work in network infrastructure/security design and there I actually DO perform miracles

Uh huh...

on Apr 28, 2010

1. Most people in IT do in fact look down their noses at end-users (sometimes this is hard NOT to do). It's the classic "god-complex" that other professions (ie Doctors etc.) struggle with as well.

I often say we are the "doctors" of the 21st century.  Not in the respect of saving human life, but in the respect that wherever we go, wherever we are, inevitably we will get a question like "Doc, my computer is doing this funny little thing.........".

When I am at a social event, I really do not want to try to diagnose why you loaded a bunch of malware on your computer.

on Apr 28, 2010

Working in construction , I have had similiar experiences with ALL OF YOU. Get off your high horse and realize that your not smarter than everyone else. Your just better at what you do than others. For crying out loud you work in SUPPORT. So SUPPORT!

 

Some IT support people I have spoken with have this incredible arrogance. They really think that everyone around them is a bumbling idiot, and make fun of the people they support. They endlessly recycle the story about the person who called in about his broken computer only to find out it had been unplugged.  

You usually don't get this with upper level support for things like a support contract with Redhat, but sometimes you do. I'm sorry, but if the config file is spitting up an error that makes no sense, I do not have time to read a hundred pages of documentation to become an expert in configuring this machine. In fact, you should be grateful that I do not have the time, because if I did, you would not have a job!

on Apr 28, 2010

Dr Guy



When I am at a social event, I really do not want to try to diagnose why you loaded a bunch of malware on your computer.

Hah! I love the Dilbert comic about this. Someone asks Dilbert to fix his computer because he's a nerd and must like doing that kind of stuff. Dilbert says sure, and asks him what time he'd like to come over to clean his gutters, because as a gardener, he must like cleaning up around the yard.

The man is flabbergasted.

 

on Apr 28, 2010

the_Monk

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 37
Most people in IT do in fact look down their noses at end-users (sometimes this is hard NOT to do). It's the classic "god-complex" that other professions (ie Doctors etc.) struggle with as well.


Struggle with? Come to me, Monk...

jk. You really shouldn't believe what you see on TV. Or should you?

 

Well my wife's ex-husband is an emergency-room physician and after having manipulated a beating human heart during a life-saving procedure one can absolutely see/sense the god-complex about him!  

 

Guess you're objective. If the heart was beating, then what's G-dlike about it? Not much different from holding any beating heart...now if it were mashed potato and he turned it into a beating heart....I wouldn't call that a complex...I'd call it "I'm convinced."

on Apr 28, 2010

I feel so abused...

 

Whenever I call tech support, it's for things like:

 

"You've turned on the NOC side firewall and you're blocking secured transmissions, can you turn it back off?"

"We don't have a firewall."

"Yes you do."

"No we don't, the firewall is in your router."

"I'm looking at the information page in your modem, it says the NOC side firewall is enabled..."

"Ok, I'll send you to my supervisor."

 

Repeat...

 

Hughesnet is awesome, I made it to level 3 tech support, locals instead of dudes from India.  They still didn't even have internet access so they could verify the situation.  They finally discovered their own firewall when the guy(very helpful despite his castrated setting) sent this mystical problem to the engineering department for review before I was transferred to VIP tech support.  It's too bad really, I'll probably never know if the top tier of tech support is allowed to ping a site to verify the problem is with the connection.

on Apr 28, 2010

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