The journey from there to here

On another forum I frequent, the question was asked about fingerprinting children as a form of ID to speed up the lunch line.

 

I’m going to leave you with your thoughts on that, while I take a few steps back.

 

When I was in high school, we read the standard dystopian novels. Orwell’s “1984” and Huxleys “Brave New World” were required reading, especially among the G/T set, which is where I spent much of my academic career. It was years ago when Ritalin and Prozac became almost mandatory for anyone deviating from the norm, that the soma of Huxley’s world came to mind. Take away their emotions and you stand a good chance of controlling the masses.

 

But now, we live in a world where if you DON’T agree to fingerprinting, warrantless searches (in the form of home visits from social workers and schoolteachers), RFID, and mandatory doctor visits, you are automatically suspect. You are accused of having something to hide by a public that is somehow unable to comprehend the concept of having something to PROTECT.

 

Our government was established under the precept that we NOT live under strict government control. Now we live in a nation where many are quick to insist that we DO. Somehow, if the government controls things, we think that everything will be allright.

 

I have never understood the irrational logic of those who trust a government that is unable to maintain its roads and bridges to manage their personal life. When the government fails to maintain a bridge in Minnesota, the bridge collapses. The casualties are tragic, to be sure, but not as tragic as when the government fails a whole generation of people entrusted to its care.

 

I have long contended that we are about to suffer a consequences of a nation that has “lived under the levee” for too long. The consequences may come later rather than sooner, but is that a legacy we want to give future generations.

 

We’ve lived too long under the government we deserve. It’s time to insist on the government our GRANDCHILDREN deserve.


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on Oct 01, 2007
Oh brother you are one of 'those!'

were you screaming this same thing when bar codes came out? How about credit cards? etc.


no


Oh please dispel your great wisdom as to how RFID differs from the previous ones?
on Oct 01, 2007
For the lunch line, Gid? Gahhh! Give 'em a debit card or something, sure, but I can think of no sane reason why they'd need any further identification than that to justify delivering a plate of disgusting cafeteria slop in the first place. Do they fear a terrorist run on 'mystery meat and unknown soft vegetable with special sauce?'


Most schools I know already use ID cards? I haven't been out of school 'that' long but the bottleneck in the lunch line wasn't the lunch line attendant.
on Oct 01, 2007
were you screaming this same thing when bar codes came out? How about credit cards? etc.


bar codes aren't being used on people except for a test group.


it is called the mark of the beast, because they started using them on dogs and cats.


credit cards just put you into debt slavery unless your very careful.
on Oct 01, 2007
bar codes aren't being used on people except for a test group.


it is called the mark of the beast, because they started using them on dogs and cats.


That's it??

They did start using bar codes on animals through skin tatoos. Now they looking at using DNA to 'bar code' them. Currently my understanding is they are still using infrared tattooing.
on Oct 01, 2007
Jennifer Government has a barcode tattoo.
on Oct 01, 2007
I haven't been out of school 'that' long but the bottleneck in the lunch line wasn't the lunch line attendant.


LW, What do you think of Lunch line pushing? We can call it Darwinian lunches?
hehe
on Oct 01, 2007

Oh Yesh! And I'm all for letting the first two thirds of the line, the ones who are strongest, being the only ones allowed to eat.

Let the rest of 'em starve, I say. Or eat dingos.


Maybe we can line them up and let them go? The fast skinny kids will get there first and get their fill. The slower chubby kids get to eat what's left!
on Oct 01, 2007
it is called the mark of the beast, because they started using them on dogs and cats.


Oh CRAP! ID tags are the mark of the beast!!! They are even using them in the military.

on Oct 01, 2007
Maybe we can line them up and let them go? The fast skinny kids will get there first and get their fill. The slower chubby kids get to eat what's left!


Or, they beat the snot outta the skinny kids.

Hey. Lunch and a phys ed program to boot! I'm game!
on Oct 01, 2007
Or, they beat the snot outta the skinny kids.

Hey. Lunch and a phys ed program to boot! I'm game!


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Dead kids get eaten!
on Oct 01, 2007
Oh CRAP! ID tags are the mark of the beast!!!



no the little chips that they put in your skin and can track from space. the first test subjects were cats and dogs. thus the meaning of the mark of the beast.


by the way the united nations bar code number for humans begin with 666
on Oct 01, 2007
It's only the Mark of the Beast if it leads to the qualifications in the Book of Revelation. Until then, it's just a bunch of mindless sheep who demand the government protect them from the responsibilities and risks that naturally come with freedom.
on Oct 01, 2007
no the little chips that they put in your skin and can track from space. the first test subjects were cats and dogs. thus the meaning of the mark of the beast.


Using your definition Danielost then the collared tags (ie dog tags) used for identifying your pet would be considered the mark of the Beast.

test subjects are cats and dogs. Now being widely used in military since WWII.

Again by your definition (because I asked you to differentiate how this indicates it is the 'Mark of the Beast') you said....

it is called the mark of the beast, because they started using them on dogs and cats.





You said it couldn't be barcodes and yet you say?

by the way the united nations bar code number for humans begin with 666


besides an RFID is just a barcode with a radio frequency.
on Oct 01, 2007
besides an RFID is just a barcode with a radio frequency.


sorry didn't know what an rfid was. and i was refering to the computer chips that they use to id dogs and cats not the tags.


and of course it isn't a bad thing now but it will be so why take a chance.
on Oct 01, 2007
sorry didn't know what an rfid was. and i was refering to the computer chips that they use to id dogs and cats not the tags.


RFID is the computer chip they are talking about.

RFID (Radio Frequency IDentification tags)
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