The journey from there to here
Published on August 28, 2007 By Gideon MacLeish In Misc

On another blog, a blogger stated that "their God" loves gays. Besides wondering if they have little wooden tiki guys they worship, that allow them to definitively state what their God does and doesn't like (eg: "God likes broccoli", "God likes to watch Wapner at 7"), I have to wonder why they would think God loves gays, when nature clearly does not.

See, the ultimate goal of a species in regards to natural selection is its own advancement. This can only happen when people are procreating (I could use coarser terms, but this is a PG rated blog, and, well, I'm sure MOST of you get the picture. If not, there are trade magazines that can help you with that). Now, usually to reproduce, a species must produce surplus to account for attrition due to top level predators. Fortunately, my good friends Colt, Smith, and Wesson have allowed us to veto that whole attrition process in a rather effective way. However, the fact remains that nature wants us to procreate.

Well, it goes without saying that one can only procreate when one of each gender is selected in the...err, mating process. Can't do it with same gender partnerships. Doesn't work. And enough people have tried to say this is pretty conclusive at this point.

So if God created nature, then God could have created nature so that His chosen people could procreate. And if God loved gays so much, he'd let 'em have babies.

But Elton John remains childless!


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on Aug 29, 2007
Awesome. I'm going to steal that for next time I'm in an argument.


That IS a great line!

Nothing like a great opportunity to take the bible and use it for a purpose other than threatening someone with eternal hell fire.


Hey...shrimp gets you hell fire...why not bum loving!
on Aug 29, 2007
"Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"


It never says God approves of the sin.


I had added to this but it seems to have gotten lost. My point is that we are ALL sinners. There is no one who is righteous who can get up on their high horse and judge other sinners because they are sinners too. I don't think that gay sex is a sin. I think that's the way they were made. I don't think it was a choice. That is my opinion. You can agree or disagree.

"Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free person, there is not male and female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."


It's speaking specifically to the body of Christ.


God doesn't see us as women or men. We are not our physical bodies. We are spiritual beings who live in a spiritual world who just happen to be in physical bodies at this time.

You're taking two verses wildly out of context, and that's my point.


This is the issue. That is your OPINION. Just because you can read the same bible verse and get something completely different out of it than I do, doesn't mean you are right and I am wrong.

OK, so you've decided I'm the jackass. Then stay the fuck off my blogs. And I'll stay off of yours. That's a problem easily enough solved.


This is what I call overreacting. I don't think you are a jackass, you just play one on the computer. (That was a joke - lighten up, Francis) Geesh.

on Aug 29, 2007

Nothing like a great opportunity to take the bible and use it for a purpose other than threatening someone with eternal hell fire.

Didn't that Jesus guy pretty much say "Hey man...eye for an eye days are over. It's turn the other cheek time now."?


Great point, Ock. I'm sure that you somehow took that "out of context".
on Aug 29, 2007
Loca--YOUR POLITICS SUCK, You Nuevo-pioneer fag-loving baby-killer! But the rest of ya's ok, you're a loving mom and a regular suzie-homemaker. Ooh, and I do love those bookmarks, haha, email me and I'll tell ya where to send one.


lol.
on Aug 29, 2007
(That was a joke - lighten up, Francis)


Oh, I got it.

The thing that mitigates this is that YOU didn't petition me because I was being a "big bad a--hole". I've never seen you not be able to take my exchanges, Loca. What I said last night was in the heat of the moment. You are, of course, more than welcome here, but NOT under the condition that I handle you with kid gloves. You are MORE than capable of defending yourself, as I've seen you do time and time again.

If I truly cross the line, I would be more than willing to acknowledge it. I did so with shades shortly after her response. But if I have a difference of opinion, you're GONNA hear about it!

Fair enough?
on Aug 29, 2007
Great point, Ock. I'm sure that you somehow took that "out of context".


Again, I could write a long article on the things Jesus really DID say. And there would be a lot of libs and a lot of conservatives squirming in their seats. Because Jesus was pretty harsh towards some people for a guy everyone wants to cast as this big, lovable hippie. I'm sure the moneychangers with the scars from the cat o'nine tails would attest to that!
on Aug 29, 2007
Just because you can read the same bible verse and get something completely different out of it than I do, doesn't mean you are right and I am wrong.


Actually, it's not that. There are verses before that. There are verses after that. You can't just take twenty words out of a long discussion and sum up the discussion by those twenty words.

I don't have time to write an essay on this, honestly. Suffice it to say that while God is very forgiving, to take it for granted that He will automatically overlook sin could be a big mistake.
on Aug 29, 2007
But if it's not a sin to begin with, he doesn't HAVE to overlook it.

C'mon, write the essay, I want something to read...
on Aug 29, 2007

Loved the Article Gid.  I guess I have read you enough to know when you are being sarcastic. 

But the comments were worth the price of popcorn!

on Aug 29, 2007
Har, har, har. Har, har, har. Dr. Guy, you're so funny.



on Aug 29, 2007


I suppose I may burn for thinking this is so darn funny.
on Aug 29, 2007
C'mon, write the essay, I want something to read...


It's really not that big of a deal to me, jythier. While I don't mind controversy, honestly, I don't want to put a bunch of fuel out there for ugly people who will misuse it. While I don't agree fundamentally with the comment that inspired this article, I DO generally agree that as Christians we need to love first and let God worry about the judging.

So on this one I'll hold back. I'd rather see people take Loca's position on this particular issue than beat gays up and leave 'em to die a la Matthew Sheppard.
on Aug 30, 2007
Mutations occur,


excluding genetic disorders (such as hereditary syndromes...huntington's, for instance), how likely is it antagonistic or disadvantageous mutations would be so consistently repetitious?
on Aug 30, 2007
how likely is it antagonistic or disadvantageous mutations would be so consistently repetitious?


Meh.

Google "Ginger kids" and you'll have your answer!
on Aug 30, 2007
Since nature discriminates against gays so heinously, it is up to the government to equal the playing field!!!


nature don't discriminate against anything. unfortunately, that's not true of the aggressively self-righteous straight humans in league with latents and others fearfully insecure in their own sexuality.
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