The journey from there to here
Published on March 12, 2007 By Gideon MacLeish In Misc

On a couple of other threads, we've had a couple of people getting on extolling the benefits of eating organic foods. While I believe in eating healthy, and I believe in eating naturally, I am increasingly becoming of the opinion that eating organic is bad for the planet, and that, ironically, organic food eaters who claim to "think globally" are, in fact, bigger contributors to world hunger than fatso Americans who chow down on large pizzas.

See, "organic" farming is basically one of the biggest rackets ever invented. Basically, the idea is that you can't use any "unnatural" chemicals or pesticides in the foods, and there cannot even be pesticide residue in the ground. Because of thie, the organic certification process is one that takes many years to attain; years during which the price benefits of organic labelling cannot be realized, but the pesticides and chemicals cannot be used. When all is said and done, the farmer gets the "organic" label and can put that stamp on it. But not until (they really should do a "schoolhouse rock" on this!)

What organic food fans are missing is that these chemicals are often processed out of the very things they use to control pests and increase their yields. They're just in a concentrated form. Veggie steroids, if you will.

Organic food necessarily has a lower yield per acre. Because the farmer can't use chemical fertilizers or pesticides, much of the crop can be lost to pests or to lower productivity. This is one of the reasons organic food is so much more expensive than commercially grown agriculture.

As the demand for organic food increases, more acreage is set aside for organic gardening, which is priced well out of the reach of the average consumer. $2 for ten pounds of potatoes is quite enough, thank you; I don't need to pay 5 bucks for the organic variety. So the organic food basically will only be sold to a niche market, and never to the hungry or needy on the planet.

This planet has a finite amount of arable land. The more that is set aside for organic gardening, the less land can be used to provide food for Third World countries, or even America's hungry. This increases food prices for all of us, leaving the have nots with just a little more to not have. Ironically, many organic food eaters chide meat eaters for using up resources to raise the meat they eat that could be better used lower on the food chain.

You want high quality, fresh produce? Take a spade and turn over a few feet of your backyard. Or, if you live in an apartment, look into square foot gardening. But when you insist on buying only organics, you are taking away resources needed by the poor. And hurting the planet in the process.


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on Mar 13, 2007
don't they use the same water supply as the regular farmers to water crops?


But if you notice, that water is untreated (warning signs about not fit for human consumption). Hence, that is how the E Coli Spinach outbreak occurred.
on Mar 13, 2007
But if you notice, that water is untreated (warning signs about not fit for human consumption). Hence, that is how the E Coli Spinach outbreak occurred.


It doesn't help that all organic food is grown in mounds of cow manure (God's natural fertilzier, amirite?)

One thing many people don't realize is that there are pesticides and herbicides and fungicides that are "organic" meaning they come from "natural" products. Rotenone, a compound extracted from the roots of tropical plants, is one such pesticide. It also has been proven to cause the symptoms of Parkinson's Disease in rats.

And organic means healthy, right?
on Mar 13, 2007

Rotenone, a compound extracted from the roots of tropical plants, is one such pesticide. It also has been proven to cause the symptoms of Parkinson's Disease in rats.

Hey!  A way to control rats!

on Mar 13, 2007

Let's open a can of worms, Gid. What about GM and cloned meat? The US will be one of the first countries (according to Sky News), to offer meat and milk from the OFFSPRING of cloned animals. Heard the story? Have any thoughts?

I am actually a fan of GM foods (though not necessarily of cloned animal byproducts). We are feeding more people with less cost and resources than ever before, and it is the GM research that has brought a lot of that on. This has kept the cost of living down for the poor and made the food supply more abundant than it would be with old methods of agriculture.

on Mar 13, 2007
Gideon,

I'm assuming you wrote this article mainly to vent, so I'm not going to specifically address any of your claims. I just want to give some information that people may find useful.

Currently there is no conclusive proof that organic fruits and vegetables are more nutritious or healthier. However, research on this is continuing and many new studies show that organic plants can be more nutritious.

The proof for the nutritional benefits of organic meat and dairy is fairly conclusive. But from what I can tell the benefits mainly come from the diet of the animals, so these benefits could be had by conventional means.

If eating healthy is a priority, here are a few things you should strongly consider:

--Trans fats are really bad for you (much worse than saturated fat). Look at the ingredients on what you buy. If you see partially hydrogenated or hydrogenated then that product contains trans fat. Most peanut butters have it as well as many other processed foods.

--As a rule processed foods are not very healthy so try to eat them sparingly. The more processed they are the fewer nutrients they contain. That is why by law flour must be enriched, because after the grain has been processed it contains almost no nutrients. Also processed grain is a simple carb which will raise your blood sugar.

--Get omega-3 fats in your diet through food or supplements.

--Eat whole grains (whole grain flour is not the same thing) and products made from them. All rice is good except white rice.

--Sprouting your grains/seeds/beans significantly increases their nutrient value.

--Fresh food is the most nutritious and frozen food is a reasonable second. Canned food is significantly less nutritious.

on Mar 13, 2007
(chuckle)

I did know all of those things, Abe. But they really are good advice, so I thank you for posting them. Especially the one about sprouting grains/seeds/beans. Most people I've met are not widely aware of that.

My point was (and is) the irony of those who tend to preach a globalist mindset by eating organic. Any benefits gained by eating lower on the food chain are quickly lost by supporting organic agriculture. It's one of those absurd inconsistencies that I detest.

This article came out of a resurgence in the criticisms of me when I explained that I spend less than $300 a month on food for my family of 8. Most of the cynicism came from those who demanded the only way we could possibly be eating healthy was through an organic diet. Ironically, though, eating the way you suggest in your post is exactly how we manage on such a "tight" budget by American standards.
on Mar 13, 2007
Gideon,

Just a clarification (my fault), I was not specifically addressing you with my post--except for the first paragraph.
on Mar 13, 2007
Just a clarification (my fault), I was not specifically addressing you with my post--except for the first paragraph.


I know. The chuckle was because you and I disagree about 99% of the time. But this is one time when I have to say you're spot on!
on Mar 13, 2007
What about GM and cloned meat?


Read any Jared Diamond? Alomst every single crop or animal we have today are the product of GM. Mendel wasn't the progenitor of this by any means. Diamond makes the case that progressing beyong hunter-gatherer society is not possible without the GM of plants and animals.
on Mar 21, 2007
No one's cause of death has ever been listed as "death by pesticide poisoning" through the normal course of human dietary practices. (In fact, some scientist used to eat spoonfuls of DDT to prove how harmless it was!) There are so many foods out there that aren't organic, and people consume them every day. If those things are so toxic, then why hasn't anyone died of them yet?
on Mar 22, 2007
Anything made of carbon compounds is organic. There's nothing wrong with using some chemicals as long as people don't get carried away....there is a happy middleground in there somewhere.

~Zoo
on Mar 23, 2007
We have our own vegetable/herb plot in the back yard of our apartment block. This year has been really good for tomatos, chillis and capsicums (what you guys call peppers). The herbs are going very well too but now Autumn is here, we're getting ready to dig it all up and plant our winter crops. It is not hard to do, so long as you maintain diligence with watering. My wife has done most of the work and she has always said she has a brown thumb.

I agree with you, Gideon, when you say everyone should at least try to grow some of their own produce. I see home owners spend so much time cultivating their lawn patch, wasting water and resources when they could be growing food instead. It has never made sense to me.
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