The journey from there to here
Published on January 21, 2007 By Gideon MacLeish In Blogging

Once again, I have been accused of flaming. And, frankly, I don't see it.

I've been involved with various online forums for over ten years. I've seen rebuttals, and I've seen flames. I've seen what constitutes a polite response, and what does not. And while my responses have occasionally snippy, I have always been careful to self moderate. So the accusations of flaming are something I take personally BECAUSE I've tried hard not to cross that line.

If we cannot offer an opposing comment on someone else's threads, what are comments left open for? If we can't debate, then what's the point? Responding to someone and offering a rebuttal is a far cry from flaming.

I don't wish to pollute the host's blog further. I made a comment I felt was entirely appropriate, did not degenerate into name calling, did not violate terms of use in any way. If the owner of the blog feels my comments are inappropriate, he has the freedom to ask me to leave, and to blacklist me, if need be. I have never knowingly tried to do an end around someone's blacklist.

But I'm also not going to stand and take an accusation of flaming when I haven't been doing it.


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on Jan 21, 2007
When have you been accused of flaming this time?

That's ridiculous. You are one of the more even-tempered bloggers around here, not as prone to fits of anger as some of us (myself included in this group, of course, you buncha TWITS ). I want gory details. Gimme a link.

Come one. Don't leave a brother hanging.
on Jan 21, 2007
https://forums.joeuser.com/?forumid=2&aid=141725#1106695

The usual suspect is doing the accusing. If she stays around JoeUser I may find myself leaving. IN MY OPINION (not a flame...this is an opinion and clearly expressed as such) she is among the top ten meanest, nastiest bloggers ever to show up on JoeUser...and she can't take it handed back to her in ANY dose.
on Jan 21, 2007
I figured it was her, I just hadn't seen it yet.

My OPINION is congruous with yours. It's weird, when she first started blogging, I liked her, and she almost ended up in my sidebar. And then came the first explosion, with her flaming hard on a good friend of mine (Donna). And then came the "arse-licking sheep" comment, for standing up for Donna and agreeing with her.

I was done with her then, and when she disappeared for awhile, I felt relieved.

Of course, when she came back, she came back bad, and I was once again accused of being a flamer. And not the gay kind, either.

Oh well. I hope you don't end up going, even though we could all migrate to another blog site . . . the interaction is much better here, and you're a much better addition to the community than she is.

Let's just hope she does something really over the top and gets exiled for good!
on Jan 21, 2007
Yeah, I didn't like the whole thing with Donna either. I held my tongue through it all, though.

I'm beginning to think that was a mistake.
on Jan 22, 2007
you go guys - have your fun and enjoy feeding your childish desires .........
on Jan 22, 2007
Gid, Gid, Gid...

Comments are for you to agree with the writer or to share your own personal, similar anecdote as long as they don't cantradict the original writer's first post!

Tsk, tsk!

I know how you feel, though. I made rebuttals in very neutral toned language about three years ago when I first started blogging. The first person, totally freaked and went on and on about how it was supposed to be sarcasm (which to this day I still think that that particular ESL speaker pulled off in that blog) and the second I contradicted someone's observation about some TV coverage (as in it was covered in a different way in Japan than the USA) and I got a "who the hell do you think you are!?"

Ultimately, I just decided that there are too many unkowns and assumptions made when responding to someone's blog that I hardly find it worthwhile to make a rebuttal anymore.

If I've enjoyed someone's blog then I'll comment, but usually (not always) I just pass a lot of the stuff I disagree with by.

... Actually, I started my comment off rather tongue in cheek only to mind that I pretty much mean it. That's kind of sad
on Jan 22, 2007
They do it because that is why they are here. It isn't fun for them if they aren't doing it. Lucas is a masochist. Jennifer is a "champion", forever defending anyone that everyone hates because it makes her feel lofty. The moment we have the ability to make specific people's posts invisible no one will see what she or lucas says.
on Jan 22, 2007
)jennifer1January 22, 2007 07:28:09Reply #28
Jennifer, you're a fruitcake, plain and simple. You and Lucas are well suited for each other.


thats rich - from one to another hahahah!

LW - I will always speak out when an unnecessary remark is made


New JU moderation...and all at no cost?

Thank you so much for your...er um, services.

Anybody for some nuts in their fruitcake?
on Jan 22, 2007
Responding to an inflamitory comment is not flaming either. Thats usually the case I see; where an inflamitory remark is made and any retort is considered flaming.

Whatever.
on Jan 22, 2007
you go guys - have your fun and enjoy feeding your childish desires .........


Waaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaah!

Baby needs a nap.

(I can't put baby in the corner, because, as we all know "NOBODY puts baby in a corner". Sowwy, couldn't resist!)
on Jan 22, 2007
I'm going to say this, at the risk of offending a few of the brass:

I think Brad allowing jennifer back was a mistake. But it's his decision to make, so we'll just deal with whatever happens.
on Jan 22, 2007
Lucas's constant dramatic exits, (in which no one, and I mean NO ONE asks him to stay) followed by ever more sheepish returns have reached the point of ridiculousness.


Yeah, he's already back, with pictures of him and his girlfriend.

And, when trying to comment, I discovered I'm officially on his blacklist. I feel so SPECIAL!
on Jan 22, 2007
I'm all out of welcome now. I think many of us are.


I think most of us are.
on Jan 22, 2007
You mean blacklist is actually working again?


Must be. I was even going to make marginally friendly comments about the pics, and just ask why he appears to have no teeth in the pictures. But I'm BL'ed. Yay.
on Jan 22, 2007
About blacklisting:

I havnt made so much as 5 (if any) posts to the lunatics blog, yet the second my name is used by her; I'm blacklisted.

I make a comment on my own blog, and get politely reprimanded.

The blacklist feature is okay, but Id rather see an "Ignore" feature, and a "Remove All comments from this user" option.
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