The journey from there to here
Published on January 13, 2007 By Gideon MacLeish In Current Events

I am sick of liberals. I am sick of conservatives. I am sick of the people who play politics with the lives of others because of the innocents who get caught in the middle.

The US base in Guantanamo Bay is just one example. Many conservatives would demand that everyone held there is guilty and should be held indefinitely without the benefit of legal counsel, without the benefit of a trial. Many liberals would demand that these people are necessarily innocent and should be released (and, almost inevitably demands for compensation  for this injustice would probably follow). As with so many other things, however, I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle.

We're asked by our government to believe that the people held in Guantanamo Bay are guilty, without presentation of indictment or even the issuance of the names of those being held. A government that lied about Waco. A government that lied about Ruby Ridge. A government that has proven itself consistently and repeatedly capable of lying to cover its own rear end when the heat is on.

The truth is, I WANT to believe that every individual held at Gitmo is guilty. I really do. To believe that we have a government capable of exiling dissidents to some private Gulag, without even notifying family members of their existence is unthinkable. It is a nightmare that belongs in dystopian visions, or in Cold War era socialist governments, not in the America that I love and in which I was born, along with 14 generations of my family before me. It is not the America defined in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence.

But the truth is also that I've seen a government fully capable of lying, and willing to do so when it is politically expedient. A government that cares nothing of its people, but only of power, a feeling that manifests itself on both the right and left sides of the political spectrum, and everywhere in between. Do I trust the government that has wrongfully stolen so many children from the families of the poor who were guilty of nothing more than being impoverished? Do I trust the government that has stolen our earnings in the name of Social Security only to embezzle the funds on a level that, had it happened in a private firm, would have certainly earned not a few convictions of embezzlement and fraud? Do I trust the government that has a 230 year history of deception, fraud, and decet? Or do I ask questions of that government, and question everything they serve up to us?

I choose the latter course.

I find it entirely possible, if not plausible, that some of the Gitmo detainees may have simply been people who reacted to the invasion of their country, either by force of arms, or force of words. They may or may not have supported Saddam, but rather may have followed an idea, much as we follow the ideas of our own federal government. But the truth will never out itself, unless we are allowed to ask questions, to demand answers, and to hold our government accountable to the people, rather than holding its people accountable to the government.

Guantanamo Bay may be a grave injustice. It may not be. But it is not unpatriotic to ask, to question, and to insist that we get answers. It is, rather, the EPITOME of patriotism.


Comments
on Jan 14, 2007
Ok, I see your point but you have a few things wrong as a premise. As a conservative and a former member of the military I do not believe that the people held are innocent or guilty of anything. The rules of war are international, to follow those rules it means that anyone caught on the field of battle out of uniform using a weapon against people in uniform are illegal combatants. The rules of war state that illegal combatants are not covered by the Geneva Conventions and may be shot on sight without a trial. All that is required is one person in uniform to say he saw the person shooting at a uniformed service member it does not matter which side he was shooting at. Our government chooses to take the person into custody find out his country of origin and if the person is not from Iraq they are shipped to GITMO for further determination.
The liberals have demanded that no military trial be held because the military can’t be trusted to be fair. The liberals want to give these illegal combatants the same legal status as American citizens. This is why most have not had a chance to clear their name. We can’t try some without revealing classified information. Under civilian laws we can’t try them without giving the information to the defendant. In the military the lawyer is a member of the military and can see the information without giving it to the defendant. Therefore providing a fair defense and keeping the information secure. With civilian lawyers as the liberals want we have a problem with this since that lawyer who was passing information to AQ against the orders of the Judge. The lawyer called it civil disobedience the judge called it contempt I call it treason.

People have been found on the battle field with weapons and have been released, others were sent to Gitmo and after further investigation released because they were not a threat. Others were minor threats that said they were misguided and promised not to get involved with the war again. They were released and sent back to their home country. A few weeks later were caught in Iraq again and sent back to Gitmo. Keep in mind that they have been caught twice on a battle field shooting at our people and still have not been lined up against the wall and shot as the law clearly states is our right.
International law and the Geneva Conventions say we can hold POW’s and any illegal combatants we choose not to shoot until the end of hostilities, once a peace treaty is signed with the warring nation must be returned to their home country. Since Terrorist don’t belong to a warring nation they can be held indefinitely. That is not US law it is international law. From my point of view it is not a question of guilt or innocence but following the rules of warfare. If you notice Jose Padilla was arrested in the US and not sent to Gitmo. As a citizen he can’t be sent there and must be afforded the rights of a citizen. The government messed up by holding him without a lawyer but I understand the reasons why. Intelligence indicated he was involved in a plot to detonate a dirty bomb in the US. To try him we would have to put that intelligence out in open court. Look at what happened when the NYT reported that bin Laden was being tracked by his cell phone and we were 24 hours away from getting him. He stopped using the phone and we lost track of him all within a day. One minor leak that if held back two days would have a banner headline of bin Laden captured and this is how we did it. This is why I am against letting the liberals have their way. They wish to break the law in order to give every chance for the enemy when laws are already in place to deal with them and from what I can tell is being followed. Whether the government is being deceptive or not no one will be able to tell for 40 years as that is how long it takes to declassify information. Keep watching the government as that is the duty of every citizen. Keep asking questions because it is our right. Distrust the government because it is run by humans and humans are not always honest. But please don’t interfere with the war effort that holds my life in the balance.
on Jan 14, 2007
Keep in mind that they have been caught twice on a battle field shooting at our people and still have not been lined up against the wall and shot as the law clearly states is our right.


sounds like we should be exercising the rights that international law gives us.
on Jan 14, 2007
sounds like we should be exercising the rights that international law gives us.


Sounds like a good idea but so far there have been 5 people caught that were innocent and returned home. Would you want to be the one that killed one of those innocents? As a former member of the military I would not want to have that on my head.