The journey from there to here

An article on Yahoo! news today (Link ) reveals one of the biggest polluters in California. It's not our automobiles, not our industry, but China's!

China's? That's right. up to 25% of airborne pollution in California is said to come from China.

And see, as liberals begin quoting Al Gore and his movie "An Inconvenient Truth", they will do so at the expense of the REAL truth: that if global warming is, in fact, caused by our behaviour, then it is wrong to place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the United States, as the environmentalists are wont to do. It is a world problem, and until we begin to address it as a world problem, then anything we do to reverse it will be meaningless. This is why the Kyoto protocols were not a good idea: because they would not have affected "developing" nations like India and China, who, we insist, have the right to develop without any consideration for the environment. Ironically, developing countries should be the FIRST place where we implement environmentally sensitive industrial practices, as the economies of these countries have not wholly evolved, and an evolution of their economies on environmentally sensitive practices makes MUCH more sense than their current evolution on environmentally insensitive practices, with a demand that they switch once their economies are fully established.

It is again ironic that much of the environmental movement suggests we "think globally, act locally", and yet, refuses to act on the global problems of pollution, which are more perasive than our own. It is equally confusing that they would decry the outsourcing of jobs, yet ignore the very fact that a key factor in that outsourcing is the lack of environmental regulations in these emerging countries.

If pollution is the pressing, imminent problem that many insist it is, then we must work harder at making developing countries aware of that problem. If "Inconvenient truths" must be faced, they must be faced not only by the US and European community, but by Latin America, South America, Asia, and Africa as well. What is an inconvenient truth for us is an equally inconvenient truth for a family living in Delhi, India.

The problem that many conservatives have with the environmental movement is that they place a heavy burden on the United States, which consistutes about 5% of the world's population, while demanding nothing of the 50% of the world's population that reside in China and India. That burden is costing us jobs, it is costing us housing for the poor, it is costing us quality of life...and in the meantime, it is an endless, vicious cycle, as we are importing not only goods from China, but pollution as well. Until we begin to see emerging nations as bearing equal responsibility for environmental stewardship, it is insane to insist on our own responsibility.


Comments
on Jul 28, 2006
The simple fact is that the downside of pollution control is finite (i.e. we can reduce it to 0). But the upside is infinite.  And until we get the rest of the world to take it seriously (even Europe is not holding to Kyoto), we doing more than they are - and I dont see Algore railing against their evilness.
on Jul 28, 2006

It is again ironic that much of the environmental movement suggests we "think globally, act locally", and yet, refuses to act on the global problems of pollution, which are more perasive than our own.


The point of this is that we have some measure of control over what happens in our backyards. We can join KMB and pick up trash. We can control what kind of vehicle we use and how much we use it. I have no power to make China be environmentally conscience except to maybe not purchase products made there. Maybe on a national level the government could make environmental standards a part of the trade agreements. But on an individual level, I don't think we can change this.

The typical American uses three times as much natural resources compared to the world average. We have a lot of changes of our own to make here.

on Jul 28, 2006
I just love having liberals that are taking first class flights to go accept many thousands of dollars in speaking fees scolding me for not doing my part to help the environment. It's not like those idiots considered the fuel usage and emissions output from the vehicles they took to get where they are going to speak at, and god forbid that they actually go speak in an area where they can't spend plenty in time in a climate controlled environment beforehand.

Hypocrites all.
on Jul 28, 2006
When I lived in Asia and drove an American car...I had to BY LAW take of my catalytic converter. Why? Because they only had regular gas and not unleaded.

Talk about pollution! Yikes, if you walked anywhere near other vehicles you needed a shower.

I know some places still use regular gas and don't have ANY environmental standards.

I think that's because they are so busy just trying to live and put food on the table that the environment takes a back seat. (Maslow was a pretty smart guy.)
on Jul 28, 2006
You infer an interesting question, Gideon.

Which do you suppose would have the greatest effect, as far as global pollution reduction; for the US to increase its environmental standards or for the rest of the world, specifically "developing" nations like India and China, to bring their environmental standards up to the present level of the US current standards.

My money is on the second scenario.
on Jul 29, 2006
I think that's because they are so busy just trying to live and put food on the table that the environment takes a back seat. (Maslow was a pretty smart guy.)


But see, here's the conundrum, Tova. We went through the pollution phase during our industrial development because we did not know better. A couple centuries of trial and error have us making much better choices and even reversing some of the damage we had done prior to 1970. While it is true we consume a disproportionate amount of the world's resources (and I, for one, am not going to stop...conservation, I have discovered, is an open door to a CPS investigation...as much as we pretend to encourage it, we discourage it with the force of law...but that is a different matter), it doesn't seem that our pollution is proportionate to our resource consumption. The pollution problems in mega-communities like Los Angeles and New York exist simply because that many people were not meant to occupy that little space at the sme time.

I said all that to say this: we made a lot of mistakes in the development of our current economy. Mistakes we are still working to rectify. Wouldn't it be saner for developing nations to AVOID those mistakes by going straight to more environmental friendly technologies rather than revisiting our follies?
on Jul 29, 2006
Wouldn't it be saner for developing nations to AVOID those mistakes by going straight to more environmental friendly technologies rather than revisiting our follies?


Yeah, but from what I've seen on my trips to "developing" countries is that they typically get our "old stuff." They get our old cars that run on regular...heck they get the pesticides that are illegal and too dangerous and thus outlawed here....we ship it there!

Logically I think you are spot on...and it makes perfect sense.

I think if they could actually afford more environmentally friendly stuff, sure they'd do it. But you can get old American throw offs for "rock bottom price."

Once all that old crap stops running, they'll get out new to old crap and it may be a little better. But I doubt it.