The journey from there to here
Published on June 19, 2006 By Gideon MacLeish In Current Events

As many in America try to use guilt to enforce oppressive taxation to pay for pet programs to feed the poor in America, they do so without hard stats, using conjecture and limited anecdotal information to guide their agendas. But taking a look at the hard facts would seem to indicate that the problem of hunger in the United States is not as pervasive, at least, as we thought. There IS a world hunger problem, I will readily concede, but its origins are different from that which we've been led to believe and the solutions must be based on solving the problems that cause the starvation, not solving the immediate problem of starvation. But I'll get to that later.

In response to the alleged starvation of the poor in America, I must defer to a comment once asked by LW on another blogger's article. If people are truly starving in America, where are the bodies? If there's an epidemic of starvation our morgues would be full of the bodies of these victims, and they would certainly be put before us on the nightly news. Aside from the images of anorexics who are underweight because of their own actions, we have no evidence of a starvatyion epidemic in America. In fact, the opposite seems to be true, according to the following information:Link

The United States now has the highest obesity rate of any industrialized nation in the world. An estimated 300,000 people die each year from health problems related to obesity

I waded through 3 pages of google search returns, and 5 pages on ask.com without yielding a single, meaningful statistic on starvation in America. It seems to me if it were happening at an epidemic rate, someone, somewhere would have been able to provide some hard data.

The world picture, on the other hand, is not so rosy. According to the following website(Link ):

Every year 15 million children die of hunger

The World Health Organization estimates that one-third of the world is well-fed, one-third is under-fed one-third is starving- Since you've entered this site at least 200 people have died of starvation. Over 4 million will die this year.

The Indian subcontinent has nearly half the world's hungry people. Africa and the rest of Asia together have approximately 40%, and the remaining hungry people are found in Latin America and other parts of the world.

Three billion people, according to this same source (that's about half the world's population) live on US $2 a day or less. I can state with absolute certainty that, if there are any people in the United States living on such a meager salary, they are doing it of their own free will, as $2 a day can be obtained with no difficulty whatsoever within the United States.

While half the world's population suffers from abject poverty, does it do so because of the lack of funds, or does it do so because of corruption and financial malfeasance? A look at the money being spent on foreign aid by the US and other nations would seem to indicate the latter. Sending more money and increasing aid to eradicate Third World poverty will only help to prop up these corrupt regimes, and the aid will simply not filter down to the individual, where it is needed. Don't believe me? Point me to ONE poverty stricken country where the country's leader lives in humble dwellings.

As individuals, NOT as governments, we have a strong moral responsibility to help the poor and needy among us. But are we truly helping impoverished nations when we subsidize the very systems that enslave them in poverty? I'm personally inclined to think not. As to domestic solutions on poverty, we've not only been successfully, but wildly so, and every indication would seem to point to the fact that we need to DECREASE, rather than increase these aid programs as those aid programs are essentially killing the very people they're designed to help. Meanwhile, until someone begins to produce the bodies of those who are alleged to be starving in America, don't believe them. As one person indicated on another topic entirely, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. And until the extraordinary proof can be provided, the extraordinary claims should not be believed.

 


Comments
on Jun 19, 2006

Love the title!  Indeed where are the bodies.  For as I readily admit, there are poor in the US (indeed due to the definition of the bell curve, it is impossible to get rid of them), but very few if any in real poverty, and I dare say virtually no one starving.

The poor may not have a rolls royce, but food they do got.

on Jun 19, 2006
I remember when Phil Gramm got in trouble for saying nearly the same thing...

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on Jun 19, 2006

remember when Phil Gramm got in trouble for saying nearly the same thing...

Kind of hard to convict someone of murder when there is no bodies.

on Jun 19, 2006
For comparison's sake though US$2 a day in Jogjakarta would equal around Rp.20,000. A month's basic accomodation for a family of four costs around 80-150,000. It would cost around 10,000 a day to feed a family reasonably well. As long as smoking is kept to a minimum it's not unreasonable to live off 2 bucks a day, although you'll probably be unable to afford decent healthcare if the government doesn't provide it.
on Jun 19, 2006
According to the CDC, the 20 Leading Causes of Death in the United States
(2003, All Races, Both Sexes)

1 Heart Disease: 684,615
2 Malignant Neoplasms 556,815
3 Cerebro-vascular 157,586
4 Chronic Low Respiratory Disease: 126,349
5 Unintentional Injury: 108,256
6 Diabetes Mellitus: 74,213
7 Influenza & Pneumonia: 64,839
8 Alzheimer's Disease: 63,457
9 Nephritis: 42,270
10 Septicemia: 33,788
11 Suicide: 31,477
12 Liver Disease: 27,498
13 Hypertension: 21,939
14 Parkinson's Disease: 17,996
15 Homicide: 17,350
16 Pneumonitis: 17,322
17 Aortic Aneurysm: 14,809
18 HIV: 13,650
19 Benign Neoplasms: 13,501
20 Athero-sclerosis: 13,049

Nope, "starvation" didn't even make the top 20.. btw, these aren't common causes of death secondary to starvation either... (with the except of a few feeble attempts at "suicide" at Club Gitmo) ;~D

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on Jun 20, 2006

For comparison's sake though US$2 a day in Jogjakarta would equal around Rp.20,000. A month's basic accomodation for a family of four costs around 80-150,000. It would cost around 10,000 a day to feed a family reasonably well. As long as smoking is kept to a minimum it's not unreasonable to live off 2 bucks a day, although you'll probably be unable to afford decent healthcare if the government doesn't provide it.

For the record, you can feed a family in the US on $2 a day, as well. It's not going to be a diet with a lot of variety, mind you, but it CAN be done. And it beats the heck out of starving to death.

My point was that in the US, there are families making over $20,000 a year that are considered below the poverty line because of the size of their families (we are one of them). I assure you that in many areas of the country, $20,000 is NOT poor (although it certainly is in some urban areas)

on Jun 20, 2006
If anyone in OUR nation goes to bed hungry, its because their momma spent her food stamps on dope, (or whatever) and no matter how much we increase momma's benefit amount, that kid is still gonna go to bed with a growling tummy.


Bingo!

My solution: Take the food stamps away, make momma stand in line at the food banks and tell her sob story to private relief agencies. We need to end this RIDICULOUS "war on poverty" that has done nothing but increase the size of the government and give jobs to the marginally employable with healthy pensions because they're government employees. By the way, whip, you should like my latest piece on poverty as well.