The journey from there to here

When Ann Coulter mentioned the fact that the liberal organizations have paraded victims about to advance their agenda, insisting those victims are above criticism, she only scratched the surface. In my writings about my Libertarian philosophies, I have found that liberals are just as hostile towards attacks on any of their pet programs. They will attack with venom and force anytime these pet programs are even QUESTIONED, and the character of the individual will be called into question. They will even, in some cases, abuse authority to harass and persecute those who DARE question them.

Can you think of even a single conservative issue where simply questioning the issue would lead to you being followed, placed under surveillance, and otherwise investigated as well as being outright accused of horrible actions? I can't speak to other areas, but I CAN tell you that as an activist against CPS, I have had all of those things happen to me. Because of my mere questioning of CPS, I am constantly watched at the library and in the community by our marshall, and even the merest slipup is likely to precipitate a call to CPS and another useless investigation. Why people will stand for this while real cases of abuse go without scrutiny is beyond me, but the simple fact is, if you live in the state of Texas, your tax dollars are being used to harass me and my family because we dared ask questions and challenge authority, and we did so with documentation and facts. In fact, because some of the money originates from the FEDERAL government, if you pay federal taxes, you are also paying for our harassment. How does that make you feel? Add to that the fact that several individuals (including the alter ego of one of our regulars) went so far as to outright accuse me of supporting abuse...because I simply asked questions and demanded that CPS follow the law.

The same can be said of education. When you dare question the efficacy of our educational system, you are branded as being anti-education, despite the fact that the money we spend on education, if spent in the private sector, would go much further. While our teachers aren't as underpaid as some would have you believe, they certainly aren't feeding off of the pork that is the governmental education system, so, where, precisely, is the money (approximately $10,000 per student nationally, once the BS has been washed off of the numbers...and this does not count infrastructure such as buildings, etc.) going? That's a very good question. But to even ask it, you need to be willing to risk being branded as one who hates our children and has no interest in our future.

Going down the list of liberal agendas, we'll move onto affirmative action. Touch this sacred cow, and be labelled a racist. If you hold public office, expect photoshop-edited copies of your image with a hitler mustache and a swastika adorning the pics. The same is true of immigration.

Protest abortion on demand or federal funding of abortion, and you're a misogynist, making women slaves to the male patriarchy, despite the fact that the majority of those pregnancies were initiated at least partly by the action of the woman.

Defend the second amendment and you're killing our children by placing guns in their hands, despite the fact that the majority of the homocides involving these children involve cases where the law has already been violated to obtain these guns.

Demand "truth in sentencing" laws, or laws otherwise tough on crime, and you're accused of perpetuating a system of oppression by further victimizing these individuals already victimized by society with your harsh treatment.

I'm reminded of my joke back in my more liberal days about fund raising for the March of Dimes. I commented that my job would be easy, as all I had to do was use guilt ("it's for the babies. What? You don't like BABIES?"). What I called a joke has now become standard operating procedures for the left. And the tactic is as appalling as it is entirely dishonest.

Ironically, this same left will portray itself as the DEFENDERS of free speech. They'll place Michael Newdow on a public square to shout about the oppression of a church who dares display a cross, but they'll condemn the response of the minister who demands that Newdow is a fascist pig that should be ignored. They'll place Jesse Jackson on a stage demanding reparations while booing Bill Cosby off the same stage for demanding responsibility. They will promote freedom of religion for Wiccans while denying the same to conservative Christians. They will exercise the most severe and harshest forms of intolerance all while demanding tolerance from the right.

It's time someone stood up to these schoolyard bullies and their nazi tactics. While they make movies about the tactics of individuals such as Joseph McCarthy, they will, in fact, employ the very same tactics to protect their images. And while the right ultimately condemned McCarthy's tactics, if not his intent, the left shows no signs of condemning either.


Comments
on Jun 18, 2006
Amen!  Your articles are always thought provoking and do require more than a knee jerk reaction.  However, I am surprised to see no one has responded.  IN that I am very disappointed.  This one should be featured, and commented on by all persuasions!
on Jun 18, 2006
Very good article, Gid. It's nice to see a "reformed" liberal now willing to condemn and indict the actions of his former partners in crime. In fact, you're kind of like a reformed criminal who uses his past to help the FBI, or something.

But why is it that liberalism gets this pass? Gets to have its beliefs, pet projects and "sacred cows" legitimized, while the Right is disallowed the same priviledge?

As to the joke about the March of Dimes, it's funny how things can look from the other side of the looking glass, isn't it? When those tatics are aimed at you, instead?
on Jun 19, 2006
Excellent article Gideon, featured and deservedly so.

You might possibly have to correct things only to make it clear that it's ok to possibly complain or criticize the liberal agenda, but only if you are a liberal and only if you are complaining that not enough is being done (read: not enough is being done as not enough money is being thrown at any issue and you'd have the liberal side down pat!).
on Jun 19, 2006
They will even, in some cases, abuse authority to harass and persecute those who DARE question them.


Perfect example today.

The California Democrat currently acting as ranking member of the House Veterans Affairs Committee reportedly launched a profane verbal assault on two employees of the Department of Veterans Affairs after they labeled a press conference held outside the VA headquarters Tuesday a "publicity stunt." Rep. Bob Filner (D-Calif.) is described as "uttering obscenities" at the VA employees in one media account.

Filner joined other Democrats Tuesday outside the VA's main offices to criticize VA Secretary Jim Nicholson for waiting three weeks to inform the public about the theft of a computer disc drive that contained the names, birthdates and Social Security numbers of 26.5 million veterans and their spouses, along with those of thousands more active duty military personnel. The Marine Corps Times later reported that "Filner got into a shouting match with unidentified VA employees after he called Nicholson a political 'crony' of President Bush who wasn't up to the job."
on Jun 19, 2006
Ok bud! your writing and thought provoking articles MUST STOP!

congrats on a very very good article.
on Jun 19, 2006
I can't speak to other areas, but I CAN tell you that as an activist against CPS, I have had all of those things happen to me. Because of my mere questioning of CPS


nothing about cps (or the foster children industry it spawns) is liberal in the least. as we both know, one of the most visible groups addressing abuse by cps is anything but conservative.

if you live in the state of Texas, your tax dollars are being used to harass me and my family because we dared ask questions and challenge authority, and we did so with documentation and facts. In fact, because some of the money originates from the FEDERAL government, if you pay federal taxes, you are also paying for our harassment. How does that make you feel?


that would be the same texas which is--like the federal government--controlled by whom? liberals? or are we to understand liberals are somehow secretly pulling the strings in the lone star state?

The same can be said of education. When you dare question the efficacy of our educational system, you are branded as being anti-education


got four words for ya here: no child left behind. it's definitely anti-education as are those who put it in place.

Going down the list of liberal agendas, we'll move onto affirmative action. Touch this sacred cow, and be labelled a racist.


as you will if you attempt to defend it. i don't see either side having clean hands here.

Protest abortion on demand or federal funding of abortion, and you're a misogynist


see below.

Can you think of even a single conservative issue where simply questioning the issue would lead to you being followed, placed under surveillance, and otherwise investigated as well as being outright accused of horrible actions?


see above.

Defend the second amendment and you're killing our children by placing guns in their hands, despite the fact that the majority of the homocides involving these children involve cases where the law has already been violated to obtain these guns


does it really make any difference to you--or your survivors--whether you were killed by an illegal or a legal gun? i've yet to find a gun-rights defender willing to permit me the shoulder-launched multipurpose assault weapon to which the spirit of the second amendment entitles me.

Demand "truth in sentencing" laws, or laws otherwise tough on crime, and you're accused of perpetuating a system of oppression by further victimizing these individuals already victimized by society with your harsh treatment


you mean like the three-strikes laws which are intentionally abused by prosecutors as a matter of routine? or the whole body of conservative-initiated drug laws which carry a mandatory 10 year sentence for possession of $120 worth of crack but not for a couple pounds of cocaine hcl?

my joke back in my more liberal days about fund raising for the March of Dimes. I commented that my job would be easy, as all I had to do was use guilt ("it's for the babies. What? You don't like BABIES?").


first time i've ever heard the march of dimes described as a liberal organization. you have no problem with pro-life conservatives using your baby appeal tho huh?

to shout about the oppression of a church who dares display a cross, but they'll condemn the response of the minister who demands that Newdow is a fascist pig that should be ignored


noboyd is shouting about oppression by churches displaying crosses on private property (but it sure makes a great victim issue when you phrase it that way). newdow seems to be fair game and even tho he's very clearly in the minority, he's not the one who's whining about being victimized.
on Jun 19, 2006
Filner got into a shouting match with unidentified VA employees after he called Nicholson a political 'crony' of President Bush who wasn't up to the job."


yeah...perfect example of you jumping on someone for telling the truth. he isn't up to the job or it wouldnt have happened. bet you'd feel a lot differently if your identity was on the stolen drive.
on Jun 19, 2006
So screaming profanity at VA employees is OK as long as he think's he's telling the truth?
on Jun 19, 2006
So screaming profanity at VA employees is OK as long as he think's he's telling the truth?


if the va employees are defending the guy who brought the drive home or the bush crony boss who let him do it--and i'd guess they started the name-calling cuz it sounds like they were reacted by calling the whole thing a publicity stunt--filner shoulda maybe took em out for ice cream and cake?

in any event, the fact you feel this qualifies as a good example of anything--much less the topic at hand--comes as no big surprise.
on Jun 19, 2006
10 by kingbee
Mon, June 19, 2006 1:41 PM


if the va employees are defending the guy who brought the drive home or the bush crony boss who let him do it--


there is no defense for bring home such material. The responsibility lies with the one that brought it home, not anyone up the chain. What ever happened to personal responsibility?
on Jun 19, 2006
No surprise that Kingbee is defending attacking someone because they 'might" have a point. This is the perfect example of what we have been talking about.
on Jun 19, 2006
nothing about cps (or the foster children industry it spawns) is liberal in the least. as we both know, one of the most visible groups addressing abuse by cps is anything but conservative.


Actually, the entire concept of CPS centers around the rather socialist idea that the government knows best how to raise a child.

that would be the same texas which is--like the federal government--controlled by whom? liberals? or are we to understand liberals are somehow secretly pulling the strings in the lone star state?


Actually, the state government of Texas consists largely of RINO's. Governor Perry has increased taxes at an incredible rate, and even my esteemed opponent was a Democrat until (surprise, surprise) 1994's "Contract with America" made it politically incorrect to be one. He's raised taxes at a rate that would make a Kennedy blush. There is nothing remotely fiscally conservative about the government of the state of Texas.

got four words for ya here: no child left behind. it's definitely anti-education as are those who put it in place.


A bipartisan effort, kingbee. NCLB was the bastard child of "Goals 2000", an educational initiative coauthored by Bill Clinton. And, admittedly, not the domain of a fiscal conservative. It's one of the reasons I don't consider most Republicans true conservatives, and addressed "liberals" rather then "Democrats". I know a number of democrats who wouldn't support a lot of these initiatives.



as you will if you attempt to defend it. i don't see either side having clean hands here


I will have to concede this point to you. You're absolutely correct.



does it really make any difference to you--or your survivors--whether you were killed by an illegal or a legal gun? i've yet to find a gun-rights defender willing to permit me the shoulder-launched multipurpose assault weapon to which the spirit of the second amendment entitles me.


Buy away, kingbee! You've found your first!

you mean like the three-strikes laws which are intentionally abused by prosecutors as a matter of routine? or the whole body of conservative-initiated drug laws which carry a mandatory 10 year sentence for possession of $120 worth of crack but not for a couple pounds of cocaine hcl?


Again, I have to concede this point. Equal culpability on both sides.

first time i've ever heard the march of dimes described as a liberal organization. you have no problem with pro-life conservatives using your baby appeal tho huh?


Actually, I do, but that's another issue. You won't find me arguing for a single law restricting abortion. I simply want to see any government funding removed. My motto on this one is, "if NARAL wants an abortion, let them hold a bake sale".

As for March of Dimes being a liberal organization, I wasn't referring to it as such (in THIS article), just to my tactics as a liberal at the time. But SINCE you asked, I changed my view on the organization dramatically when I heard that one of their solutions to birth defects was to abort babies whose defects they couldn't cure. Say what you want about abortion on demand, kingbee, but even you have to admit that the concept of using abortion for genetic purity is appalling and belongs buried with the other ghosts of Nazism.

noboyd is shouting about oppression by churches displaying crosses on private property (but it sure makes a great victim issue when you phrase it that way). newdow seems to be fair game and even tho he's very clearly in the minority, he's not the one who's whining about being victimized.


Actually, yes, Newdow HAS whined quite a bit about being victimized. Remember the Pledge suit? It was all about his daughter's allegedly being victimized in the school system. And there are many documented incidents of where even private religious displays have been challenged...granted, most of those challenges have been unsuccessful in higher courts, but they still come about with such regularity as to intimidate a good number of people who fear the costs of litigation.

Thank you for an intelligent, categorical challenge to my thesis, kingbee. It's nice to be able to debate these things on topic.
on Jun 19, 2006
No surprise that Kingbee is defending attacking someone because they 'might" have a point. This is the perfect example of what we have been talking about.


Actually, if more liberals debated and discussed like kingbee, I think we'd make a little more headway. Throughout his entire response, he did not once degenerate into a personal attack. And I must point out that if I cannot respond to an intelligent, well worded response such as his, it undermines my entire thesis.
on Jun 19, 2006
#14 by Gideon MacLeish
Mon, June 19, 2006 1:54 PM


No surprise that Kingbee is defending attacking someone because they 'might" have a point. This is the perfect example of what we have been talking about.


Actually, if more liberals debated and discussed like kingbee, I think we'd make a little more headway. Throughout his entire response, he did not once degenerate into a personal attack. And I must point out that if I cannot respond to an intelligent, well worded response such as his, it undermines my entire thesis.


there in lies the reason I like and respect kingbee.
on Jun 20, 2006
So screaming profanity at VA employees is OK as long as he think's he's telling the truth?

His attitude must be "You can't handle the truth!"
What a maroon...