The journey from there to here
Published on April 29, 2006 By Gideon MacLeish In Politics

Monday should be an interesting day. It is the day many immigrants are planning to walk out on their jobs and boycott all American industry, in support of those here illegally, who they feel should be offered blanket amnesty and be given a national anthem in their own language, rather than in English, to sing.

In the midst of the discussion, some angry voices have come out. While I hope these voices are in the minority, I am concerned they may not be. One individual expressed the fact that he had come to the United States and earned his citizenship specifically to be in the position to help these illegals circumvent the law and settle here illegally. Another individual expressed quite angrily that the United States and its citizens could do nothing to stop his and others' attempts to "take back what is rightfully ours" (that land that many latinos call Republica del Norte -- the Northern Republic, known to us in America as much of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Southern California), which, he said, was only beginning on May 1. This individual also expressed that he was a citizen (whether true or not, I do not know).

Assuming these two men were correct in that they are United States citizens, and assuming they actually ACT according to these words, we have a law to deal with them. The law is called TREASON, and it's a high crime against the country that, need I remind you, these individuals once swore their allegiance.

Our government has a responsibility to act against groups that are calling for the reclamation of "Republica del Norte" (ironically, as they argue that WE are the imperialist nation). These groups represent a very clear and a very real threat to the state of the union, and cannot be ignored. While they may be in the minority, they wield powerful influence over the nation's estimated 11 million illegal aliens, who have nothing to lose in mounting an armed attack against the United States. If we allow their movement to build, a civil war is a very real and very diusturbing possibility.

While we cannot act in fear in assuming that the majority of the illegal aliens in this country are here to destroy the United States, to seize the Republica del Norte, we have no way of knowing for sure. We MUST begin to deal with this problem in ways other than a blanket amnesty. The future of our nation may well depend on it.


Comments
on Apr 29, 2006
The facetious part is they really don't want that land. If tomorrow we packed up and left it, they'd just start sneaking over the new border. They want to be a dependant of the US without any of the responsibilities of citizenship. They want pay without taxation. They want to make American dollars here and take them or wire them home to be spent there.

I mentioned on my blog that not only does the Mexican government turn a blind eye to illegal immigration, they RELY on it for a significant portion of their economy. The percent of mexicans illegally employed in the US outweighs their unemployment rate several times over. If those illegals became American citizens, that influx of money would stop, and their unemployment rate would skyrocket over night.

So it is all a facetious argument. They don't want Republica del Norte, they just want to come here and work in it and leave the rest to us. They don't want streamlined immigration, because I don't believe all that many intend to stay here. This to me is all a farce and a distraction from the real problems of illegal immigration.
on Apr 29, 2006

I talked with my aunt about this whole boycott thing happening on Monday.

We both agree its stupid.  If it does anything, it will push people who were fence sitting right on off onto the less tolerant side of the bebate.

 

on May 01, 2006
In addition to Baker's insightful comment, I would like to point out to these buffoons that Republica del Norte was NEVER a part of the Republic of Mexico, but of Spain.  And before Mexico got its independance, Spain lost them to the US or independance (Texas).  So if they were 'stolen', they should be returned to the owner at the time of the crime, Spain, not Mexico.
on May 01, 2006
There's a thought, Dr. Maybe Spain should be pushing for the return of its colonies (hehe!)
on May 01, 2006
With palms together,
Hello Gideon, All,

Your article, Gideon, seems inflammatory, much like most of the conservative talk shows I used to occasionally listen to, but now only hear about. Collectively tossing people into gross generalizations and appealing to people's fear is not good argument. Few people as I read the situation, are talking about "blanket" amnesty. Suggesting there is any threat at all that immigrants, legal or otherwise, would wish to "take back" the desert southwest is a tad over the top. To call suggest they are considering doing so as an armed insurrection is, well, inciting a riot. Of what possible benifit to resolving the immigration issue is such talk?

Immigration, legal and otherwise, is certainly a serious issue. In my town, there is a building boom going on and an article appeared on the front page the other day saying that developers and home builders were suffering greatly as the construction force has 'disappeared' as a result of conerns that the INS will be raiding building sites. Construction is slowing to a snail's pace.

Like it or not our economies are incredibly complex and have little to no regard for national boundaries. Low wages enable many people to have things, cars, homes, food, clothes, etc. that they would not otherwise be able to afford. To suggest that we use "union labor"(as the newspaper article and several letters to the editor suggest) would be wonderful, I suppose, but then fewer people could afford the bill. People willing to work for sub-standard wages have been an unspoken necessity in our out-of-control consumer society.

Reason and a willingness to seek solutions is sorely needed here. Articles inciting people are hardly helpful in this pursuit.

Be well.
on May 01, 2006

Reason and a willingness to seek solutions is sorely needed here. Articles inciting people are hardly helpful in this pursuit.

With all due respect, sodaiho, I AM seeking solutions. What I am saying is the solutions we are exercising are NOT practical solutions.

If an immigrant gained citizenship with the intent of overthrowing the United States government, as I have heard several new citizens proclaim, they are traitors if their rhetoric ever translates into action. Plain and simple. And they should be tried for treason.

As to the illegal aliens in this country, a blanket amnesty creates more problems than it solves. While a number of these individuals want nothing more than to improve the lives of their families, there are also a number who are bent on "taking back" this territory--I have HEARD them.

As for my "inciting people", sodaiho, I am speaking the truth as I see it. I have always done that. If you can't handle it, you might want to make your blog selection choices a little more tame...perhaps "mommy blogs" will do it for you?

When action is necessary, stirring people to action is NOT a bad thing.