The journey from there to here

I recently caught the trailers for an upcoming kids' movie "Hoot". The movie, for those who haven't seen the previews, is about the conflict between a group of developers (EVIL!) who want to build a pancake house and a group of kids who will stop at nothing to make sure that doesn't happen because of a family of owls nesting in the ground at the site.

The previews show the children pulling all sorts of pranks on the developers to halt the development; the pranks are, of course, justified because they elicit laughter, and, after all, that family of owls is more important than the property rights of the owner.

I'm quite disturbed at the message that movies like this send our young children. Is it that much of a stretch, for instance, for a kid to graduate from pranks intent on sabotaging development to potentially lethal actions such as driving nails into trees to potentially kill or injure loggers when they log your favorite stretch of old growth forest? Is it a responsible message to send that the rights of a family of owls preempt the rights of developers who have purchased a property to develop it as they see fit, creating jobs for the community? On the lighter side, has anyone noticed that the death of a few owls, which are predatory, will certainly save the lives of certain smaller rodents who might otherwise end up on the dinner table for Mr and Mrs. owl and the twins? Or does the "cuteness" factor grant greater rights to the owls than to the select rodents that might make it to the menu?

Hollywood is, sadly, carrying the "message movie" to the next generation. While conservationism is a responsible message to pass on to our children, militant environmentalism is not. As children go to see this movie because it is packaged as a cute kids' movie, and those are in short supply nowadays, they will most likely walk away believing the ends justify the means. And, little by little, intolerance will be passed on to the next generation.

I intend not to see this flick for that reason. I believe it is irresponsible and shameful propaganda disguised as entertainment. I just hope enough parents are savvy enough to see it as the same to prevent this kind of idiocy from overwhelming children's entertainment.


Comments
on Apr 27, 2006
I agree with you, Gid. While I do consider it important to preserve the environment, let's be honest - you shouldn't mess with anyone's property rights. You want to save it, go offer them some money for it. Let's do this the legal way, people.

On another note, I intend not to see the movie simply because it looks absolutely insipid.
on Apr 27, 2006

You want to save it, go offer them some money for it.

Nail on the head award! If you want to determine what happens to the land, control it. Purchase it at a fair price and, if you care so much about the owls, turn it over to a group like the Nature Conservancy!

on Apr 27, 2006
My oldest is excited about seeing this movie, and if I don't take him to see it at the theaters I'm sure we'll rent it. It's based on a book, although I doubt he'll want to read the book, lol.

To me, this movie is no different than about a million other "children save the _____" movies (usually with the help of animals) ala Dr. Dolittle. It's entertainment. And of course, since I'll watch it with my child, if it has any themes or messages that I feel I need to address with my kids...well, perfect teaching moment, don't you think?

If this makes me a parent who is not savvy and who subjects her children to "propaganda" well...pass the popcorn, Gid, cause I don't see the big problem here. We went to see Ice Age 2 a few weeks ago, and so far my kids haven't started building a boat to escape the impending flood or initiated a romance with a female Mammoth, so I think we'll be ok.

on Apr 27, 2006

Texas,

There's a difference. You're bright and educated, and I'm sure you would discuss the movie with your kids. I can't say that about the majority of the American viewing public (exhibit A: the inexplicable popularity of Amanda Bynes).

on Apr 27, 2006
Ironic if it was the evil planners doing the same kind of stunts the kids do everyone would be calling for their heads.
on Apr 27, 2006

Ironic if it was the evil planners doing the same kind of stunts the kids do everyone would be calling for their heads.

More ironic.  If they were adults, they would be labeled the #1 Terrorist group in the US (ELF).

on Apr 27, 2006
I grew up on cartoons like Captain Planet, and saw countless EvilCorp vs Cuddly Friendly Animals animated films (ferngully comes to mind first) and very few overall of my generation gave in and were brainwashed. Those that were, had the ultra-hippie parents to begin with. These movies have almost no impact overall. It's like saying video games cause violence in kids. Exposing a kid to something doesn't mean they'll then emulate it, or even believe it as being something real or plausible.

I guess I just place a bit more stock in the ability of the average kid to differentiate between something fake (movie) and something real. Message movies don't tend to have the widespread impact the makers want. I'd be more worried about the extremist parents who will indoctrinate their kids into this stuff, with or without the help of badly animated films.
on Apr 27, 2006

I grew up on cartoons like Captain Planet, and saw countless EvilCorp vs Cuddly Friendly Animals animated films (ferngully comes to mind first) and very few overall of my generation gave in and were brainwashed. Those that were, had the ultra-hippie parents to begin with. These movies have almost no impact overall. It's like saying video games cause violence in kids. Exposing a kid to something doesn't mean they'll then emulate it, or even believe it as being something real or plausible.

You are being assimilated as a conservative!

Excellant post.

on Apr 27, 2006
Zoomba's right. If anything the evidence suggests that kids today are more resistant to propaganda than kids a generation ago. It's all the ads they watch on tv; from an early age they're forced to learn to distinguish the nuances that separate truth from spin. I grew up on Captain Planet as well, and frankly I don't give a damn what they do to the trees.
on Apr 28, 2006
Lol. Captain Planet? I remember I was fan of that show. I'm not quite the rabid greenie.
on Apr 28, 2006
if only lee harvey oswald's parents hadn't taken him to see ol yeller.

hopefully my new film (the script is, as they say, out there) will quell this trend. iraqinois--the current working title, altho i'm also kinda partial to lebanonesota--is also a family friendly adventure about a group of kids determined to make life better for a classmate (and his siblings) who appear to be abused by their evil father. when they're unable to enlist any help from the adults in their own lives--even after drafting a white paper--these would-be rescuers decide there really are no rules for this kinda situation and that's when the real fun begins. one kid ('archi': a pudgy lil guy whose pale complexion and dorky appearance conceal a ruthlessly ambitious lil schemer), comes up with a lotta creative tactics such as reporting wild rumors about the man to cps (only to have one of their own group claim the kids' leaders knew--or shoulda known--the stories weren't true) prior to launching a full-on home invasion to drive the father outta his baddad residence. in the aftermath, they discover in real life things don't always work out the way they do in books and movies. some of their classmates' brothers and sisters band together and play mean pranks on their rescuers. if that wasn't bad enuff, this exploit cost their class (and all future classes for the next x number of years) every cent of proceeds from the annual cookie drive. to top it all off, it turns out there's a much worse parent next door who they totally overlooked.

i don't wanna give anymore away but clearly this won't be one of those ridiculous save the owls pix.
on Apr 28, 2006
MMMmmmm, owls.
on Apr 28, 2006
MMMmmmm, owls.


Tastes like chicken.