The journey from there to here

The illegal alien situation in the United States is reaching a boiling point. I know of absolutely nobody who has gone unaffected by this issue. The anger of many Americans, while justified, over our government's failure to enforce our southern border, is being directed at people of Hispanic heritage (or in some cases I could cite, who APPEAR to have Hispanic heritage). I am afraid that if we are not extremely careful on this issue, we could wind up repeating some of Germany's mistakes in the leadup to World War II.

While it would be nice to envision a scenario where those who are here illegally are dealt with according to the law, it's impractical to apply. The population of illegals is too numerous and too entrenched for that to be a practical reality. Even the most draconian scenario, a house to house search for illegals, would not be possible, as it would be impossible to identify the illegals among our population without trampling on the Constitutional rights of the citizens who are here legally. And it's especially sticky when many illegal households have one or more citizen residing within, as anyone born in the US is a citizen of this country.

Americans have made a horrendous mistake in blaming unemployment entirely on illegal immigration. Although it cannot be denied that this immigration has been a factor in unemployment and/or stagnant wages in certain sectors of employment, it is not the only factor, and, as the baby boomers edge closer to retirement, we need to prepare for the first time in United States history where, among citizens at least, the number of retired persons will actually outnumber those who are within the workforce. The only way we can possibly deal with this changing dynamic will be to allow immigrants easy access to work in the United States.

Many of these illegals have accumulated assets in the United States, and a number of them own their own homes. Asset forfeiture is not the answer, as it goes against every principle we have as a capitalist society. It would also be an unconscionable moral breach.

While I am loathe to take this comparison too far, as it is one that evokes extremely negative images, the best historical parallel I can find is in pre World War II Germany. Germany as a nation was going through the same depression that haunted America and all of Europe, and German citizens, eager for a scapegoat, embraced the rhetoric of a monster who offered up the Jewish people as a scapegoat. It is no less disturbing that some of our pundits are quick to offer up Mexican illegals as a scapegoat, and our only hope lies in the possibility that saner heads among us will realize this and not allow an outcome that further justifies the parallel.

We could operate on a plane of ideals and suggest that we remove all illegals in the US, but the simple fact is that, with 11 million of them among us, they are extremely unlikely to self identify. Giving them a reason to do so, while admittedly a less than perfect solution, would certainly give our government an opportunity to get an upper hand on a situation that is quickly spiralling out of control. If government cannot do this, it is frighteningly possible that many Americans will feel compelled to take matters into their own hands, and we'll see the return of a mindset that we need to avoid at all costs. While our policy makers do not have any easy answers to deal with this situation, we have a clear and sobering picture of an outcome we CANNOT allow. And we need to work to avoid that outcome at all costs.


Comments
on Apr 11, 2006
Good job.I believe you make a good point about us baby boomers and the impending worker crises. Be well.
on Apr 11, 2006

Perhaps I just dont live in the fast lane, but this whole immigrant thing first is incorrect, and second, all a put up.

Incorrect:  It is not about immigrants, it is about illegal immigrants.  I cant count the number of times I have had to correct people.

A put up: My wife is Hispanic.  Her family lives in one of the most hispanic areas of the country.  And they are not out in the streets demonstrating.  The whole thing is just a put up sham by organizations that are anti-american (ANSWER) or want to try to pin this on Republicans.  The problem is, it is not a partisan issue as the democrats have been screaming as loud as the republicans about this.

I predict it will come back to bite them in the end.

on Apr 11, 2006
"Many of these illegals have accumulated assets in the United States, and a number of them own their own homes. Asset forfeiture is not the answer, as it goes against every principle we have as a capitalist society. It would also be an unconscionable moral breach."


Lol, figures. No, crime is hard work; and people have the right to keep the fruits of their labors. You Libertarians really know how to promote illegal acts. I find it sad when "reality" is cited as a reason to give in to the thuggish pressure of illegal immigration and its apologists.

This isn't about the aryan Americans hunting down poor Mexicans, this is about the American people having illegal immigration shoved down their throats. When they complain, they get "Be careful, you might start acting like Nazis".

No, I don't think you'd be seeing illegals marching defiantly waving Mexican flags if there was even the potential for us to start up the ovens. Just the opposite. We've shown weakness and we will now be taken advantage of by those who have no respect for our country, and who just want to use it.

If you want to talk about suffering and harm, keep right on promoting our system. Keep on validating the idea that once people get here and get set, we might as well deal accept the reality of their presence. With that sort of allure they'll keep dying in cargo containers, of exposure in the desert, and on their little rafts.
on Apr 12, 2006

Lol, figures. No, crime is hard work; and people have the right to keep the fruits of their labors. You Libertarians really know how to promote illegal acts. I find it sad when "reality" is cited as a reason to give in to the thuggish pressure of illegal immigration and its apologists.

How do YOU propose we hunt down 11 million illegals, Baker? Door to door searches? Detain all Hispanics until their identities can be proven? There's no easy way.

The truth is, we must deal with the results of a dismally failed border control policy, and the only POSSIBLE way to get a handle on it is to allow the illegals who are currently here some incentive to self identify. If we make their presence a felony, you can bet it will become harder and harder to find them.

You talk about reality vs. idealism, Baker, now it's time for you to look at it from that standpoint. The reality is, the situation spiralling out of control sucks and should have been dealt with a LONG time ago. But it's also reality to state that it hasn't been, and that we need to do SOMETHING to "stop the bleeding"; a less than perfect solution is FAR better than NO solution.

I'm actually NOT a total "open borders" advocate, so don't pin me in the corner like that, Baker. Just as you can't be defined by other Republicans, I am not defined by my party.

Let's take your argument to its logical conclusion, Baker. We treat illegal immigration as a harsh felony. The result would be the scrapping of the bill of rights in its entirety in our quest to locate these individuals, and forfeiture of their assets, imprisonment and deportation. Not a scenario any of us should want.