The journey from there to here

I am not a universalist. Far from it. I believe the belief in universalism to be, essentially, a faith in nothing, as the very word faith implies a belief system that provides definitive answers.

In fact, my being a Christian has its genesis in evangelical circles. I have even worked the phones for the Billy Graham crusade (on two separate occasions, no less). But I gradually became disenchanted with the "Amway" aspect of evangelism (and the numerous people who would ask you how many people you "brought to Christ" on a given occasion), and became concerned more with what happened AFTER the fast talking "sales pitch" resulted in a "closed deal". After all, this is eternal salvation we're talking about, and a simple Saturday night conversion doesn't address deeper spiritual needs at all. And what does it truly say about a person when their concern for another begins and ends with the other's decision to recite (or refuse to recite) the "sinner's prayer".

On the other end of the scale, this IS eternal salvation we're talking about, and to say nothing to someone about whom I care deeply would be an equally appalling disservice.

I began to realize as I watched other Christians that I admire exactly what the answer is. The simple answer is, you can say EVERYTHING by saying nothing. Your life, your example, everything you say and do is a FAR more compelling testimony than mere words, which can be manufactured at will by the vast majority of humans. Actions not only speak louder, but more substantially than words. If a picture is worth a thousand words, an action is easily worth TEN thousand.

Best of all, when you witness with action, you're not witnessing from a position of smug arrogance. You're giving evidence to another of a life totally turned over to Jesus Christ, and there is NO compelling testimony that can refute that. As a result, it becomes possible to coexist with the very individuals who need the Gospel the most.


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on Feb 01, 2006
Yup. Yup.

My sentiments exactly.

I have a little anecdote.

I knew a Unitarian Universalist in Alaska. She basically believed all paths led to God. Even if someone chose to worship the light post out in front of their house. As long as they could reason about it, well it all led to God..and of course their faith couldn't debunk any other faith. That was one of the ground rules. Everyone in her "church" had to respect any and every path to God, as long as it wasn't violent.

Kinda makes ya go hmmmmmm.

on Feb 01, 2006

Even if someone chose to worship the light post out in front of their house.

Well, at least they would see the light once a day.

on Feb 01, 2006
I've seen the LIGHT!

I've seen the LIGHT!

It was so close all this time and now I've seen the LIGHT!

Buwhahahaha.
on Feb 01, 2006
I knew a Unitarian Universalist in Alaska. She basically believed all paths led to God. Even if someone chose to worship the light post out in front of their house. As long as they could reason about it, well it all led to God..and of course their faith couldn't debunk any other faith. That was one of the ground rules. Everyone in her "church" had to respect any and every path to God, as long as it wasn't violent.


I've been present at a Universalist wedding.

I have no comment!
on Feb 01, 2006
"The simple answer is, you can say EVERYTHING by saying nothing. Your life, your example, everything you say and do is a FAR more compelling testimony than mere words, which can be manufactured at will by the vast majority of humans. Actions not only speak louder, but more substantially than words. If a picture is worth a thousand words, an action is easily worth TEN thousand."

I couldn't agree more with this Gid. It never hurts to say "Hey, my family is going to a church function, would you like to join us?" You can open the door but you can't force another to walk through especially if they are very happy and confident where they are. The whole I'm living right and you are living wrong approach will only lose the door.

Very nicely said Gid. See, I'm not christian but that doesn't mean I'm anti-christian or that I can't respect your belief system.
on Feb 01, 2006
I couldn't agree more with this Gid. It never hurts to say "Hey, my family is going to a church function, would you like to join us?" You can open the door but you can't force another to walk through especially if they are very happy and confident where they are. The whole I'm living right and you are living wrong approach will only lose the door.


Very well said, Jill. My pastor at the church I grew up in...*sighs*...he's one of those people, you know? One of those people who will point out all your wrongs and just let it lie. I went to talk to him about Ryan and I getting married. He knew we were living together, and generally, that's a bad thing and I understand that. He told us that if we were having sex that we might as well just get married right now. He then proceeded to tell me how absolutely Godless my cousins are and how he couldn't believe that they called him when they got married and such.

And that made me really sad, because neither of my cousins (no, they didn't marry each other...two girl cousins who married their own husbands...lol) really had much experience with God. And getting married is a big thing, and sure, they made mistakes in their relationship, but they were trying to get on the right track and talk to a pastor. He completely missed the opportunity to show them what our God is all about, you know? And he slammed the door on their faces. ~shakes head~




But you definitely have a good perspective, Gid. Thanks for being a good Christian "blog" example.
on Feb 01, 2006

Gid old boy - right on the money.

Who in the world could even argue with this?
I am the worst when it come sto meeting smug religious people, they drive me into a frenzy.
But I always respect and even come closer to the religious person who shows their religion by the life they lead!

but then again what fun would i have if ALL religious people lead their life like that?

Hi Tova!
on Feb 01, 2006
Thats hi to Tova because I have come to like her, not because I think she is one of those smuggers. - just to clarify
on Feb 01, 2006
Right back at ya Sushi!

I was giggling when I read this...

I am the worst when it come sto meeting smug religious people, they drive me into a frenzy.


I was thinkin how much fun it is when you are in a frenzy! buwhahahaha

on Feb 01, 2006

Thats hi to Tova because I have come to like her, not because I think she is one of those smuggers. - just to clarify

Flirt! 

on Feb 01, 2006
Pfft...who'd flirt with Jill from Home Improvement? A total MARM.
on Feb 01, 2006
Whats a MARM? I know MILF and DILF but not a MARM
on Feb 01, 2006
This is one of the many reasons I have come to respect you lad,and why for the most part I do not participate in religious blogs.

My religion and faith is mine, yours is yours and we can just respect each others beliefs.
on Feb 01, 2006
I find religion to be very interesting as a topic for discussion. It ruins it for me, though, when someone condemns me or condescends to me because I don't share their faith or their views.

I think living ones faith is a much more effective way to "reach" people.

Excellent blog Gideon.
on Feb 02, 2006
Pfft...who'd flirt with Jill from Home Improvement? A total MARM


Used as a polite or respectful form of address to a lady: madam.

How many sexy madam's do you know?

I am not talking about those MADAMS....shesh!

Buwhahahahaha
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