The journey from there to here

OK, so here's the scenario: Seems that Ford Motor Company, in order to sell luxury cars, posted a few ads in gay themed magazines. Trying to sell some cars, and going where the market lies, right? (statistically speaking, homosexual couples would at least seemingly have more dispensary income as they often don't have children to care for, so they would be a good bet to target with luxury car ads, or so I would think).

Not so fast. The conservative Christian watchdog groups called for a boycott of Ford because of their "promotion of homosexuality", and Ford pulled the ads. Now, the gay rights groups are threatening a counter boycott to bring back the ads, and the whole thing has gotten out of hand.

Excuse me? PROMOTION of homosexuality? Seems to me all Ford was trying to do was sell a few cars, and if they found some licensed drivers among lower primates, might just as well hae advertised in "Monkeyshines Monthly".

Now, I admit, sometimes the boycotts that these companies call for point out some rather disturbing facts about a company's practices. But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and in this case, I see nothing wrong with Ford's practice of buying ad space in gay magazines. The gay magazines serve a specific market, just as any magazine does, and all a Christian has to do to avoid exposure to that point of view is NOT BUY THEM! You won't find them on the shelves of a lot of stores in mainstream America, frankly.

Which leads us to the final question: How exactly DID our conservative Christian friends discover these ads? SOMEONE out there must have a subscription!


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on Dec 15, 2005
Icon...
They are minding their own business. They're not picketing, they're not pushing for laws to block the ads, they're not even getting in anyone's way of purchasing a Ford. What they are doing is spreading the word to like-minded individuals who might not have been aware.

"Hey, here's what's going on... if you agree this is bad, don't buy from them!"

If I see something that is offensive to me, I'm going to probably let others know about it. This is no different from citizen groups boycotting WalMart or other Big Business over labor or sales practices or whatever. They're minding their own business... they're just getting the word out to others who agree with them... and there's nothing wrong with that per-say...

What it is though is counterproductive to the image Christians in this country are trying to cultivate. Oh, and you're off the mark on what tolerance means a bit.
on Dec 15, 2005
to say it, myrr's response was probaby the best. There really ARE bigger things to worry about.


And Tex and AvantiTexan.

don't see many Christians sharing Christmas dinner with any homosexuals thesedays, do you?


Unless some of the Christians are gay.

Icon...
They are minding their own business.


Not when it affects what Ford wants to do.
on Dec 15, 2005
You're right, gays might be considered a market for Ford, even other big auto mfg's. So might other ALT lifestyles, where does it stop.

Here's the problem as I see it. Ford is one of the biggest and older American organizations. It's employee base is predominantly family oriented blue collar America, as are other large American institutions. Ford stock is held by many conservative institutional American investors, also employing a sizeable conservative investment minded work force. It's important to note that many folks like myself put their family values and Christian beliefs above P&L. So for Ford not to pull their advertisements, they would face a slippery slope of cultural dissension by their investors. Because we prioritize reinforcing the definition of what historically has been defined as heterosexual mainstream America.

On the other hand if Ford didn't pull the advertising they would be giving the impression that Gays/ALT sub-culture is becoming a major portion of mainstream America, when in reality it's not. Not to say it won't happen in the future, hopefully when I am gone. Also, by not pulling their ads it could be construed as another assault on family values. I, for one hold family values above all and will not support, buy, nor hold stock in any organization that thinks Gays/Alt cultures should be included in mainstream American definition.

Even though I am a moderate conservative and support legal contract relationships for the Gay community, I am happy the Christain right took action and support all the way into my wallet. By the way, every conservative 527 committee has watchdogs for this exact reason and some are gay conservatives.
on Dec 15, 2005
don't see many Christians sharing Christmas dinner with any homosexuals thesedays, do you?


Guess My Mother and I are going to have to disinvite my brother? NOT.
on Dec 15, 2005
It's not impacting what Ford wants to do. Ford can ignore them if they like. Ford is under no obligation and is in no way forced to capitulate to an extremist group. If Ford is so swayed by opinion, then me saying they're dumb on a public forum is forcing them to alter their stance.
on Dec 15, 2005
I hear what you are saying about this being really silly, but you really have to put it in perspective.

People will always form groups and try to influence the world to their way of thinking. If the group is big/powerful/loud enough, they will be heard and exert the power they so desperately want. That's all that's happening here.

You shouldn't be upset about the boycott by the religious right, you should really be upset by the fact that Ford felt that it was important enough to listen to them.

Chris
on Dec 15, 2005
I wonder, if Ford donated money to the AFA, and GLAAD decided to boycott Ford, would iconoclast be whining that GLAAD should mind their own business... I'm thinking no.

Your predictabilility on the subject of Christianity borders on the deranged, iconoclast. I'm starting to think of you like some weird guy at parties that you never want to mention a particular subject around. You are JU's "Col Gene" of Christianity, spouting knee-jerk annoyance like you have tourett's syndrome...
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