The journey from there to here

In another blog, one of our more liberal bloggers sources al jazeera, claiming them to be "more objective" of a source than Fox News.

EXCUSE ME?

Al Jazeera, while a legitimate news organization in its region, has a long standing history of sympathy to terrorist organizations and their objectives (of course, the liberals deem these terrorists "Freedom Fighters", but I digress). While its research should not be utterly dismissed, it should definitely be taken with a huge measure of salt.

This leads me to wonder if there really IS such a thing as an "objective" news outlet.

Growing up in Enid, Oklahoma, our hometown paper was rather conservative. This was not surprising, as a perusal of advertising sold in the paper was sold to businesses owned by conservative leaders in the community (virtually ALL the big business there was owned by conservatives). In Oshkosh, Wisconsin, the same deal (they even went so far as to print a "clip and carry" copy of a ballot, with all the paper's endorsed candidates marked conveniently for the reader to copy). An examination of Madison Wisconsin newspapers shows a decided bias to the left. Essentially, print media, at least, reflects closely the demographics of the region. While they often allow an opposing countrpoint, its usually in political arenas that are not highly controversial.

Televised and radio media is no different. The bias of the media is quite literally tied to the ones who pay the bills. Would Elizabeth Smart's kidnapping and recovery have been so widely propagated if the Smarts were not the neighbors of the Van Susterns (specifically, Greta?) Given the number of missing and exploited children in the United States, I think it highly unlikely. And in my own experience I can cite the failure to bring media attention to help a burned church in my own hometown (while I lived in Wisconsin), while Reggie White was able to muster every reporter with an available microphone to aid in his church's rebuilding, despite the fact that the money was later apparently embezzled (although NOT by Reggie White).

Media is not objective. It is not, and never has been. Much like my own blog site, it is subject to the bias of those who write the stories (does anyone have the number of AP feeds per month that are completely IGNORED, on average?), and such bias does make for larger readership. Media is not a nonprofit business, and their articles are geared towards one end: MAKING MONEY.

A responsible response to media sources with a decided bias would be to evaluate several different sources, and, if possible, the source data (unedited interview transcripts, poll data, etc), before making a hard conclusion. Or, you could go the easy road and blame the media for misinforming you.

Respectfully submitted (last sentence tongue in cheek),

Gideon MacLeish


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on Feb 02, 2005

Reply #15 By: Gideon MacLeish - 2/2/2005 3:34:45 PM
Living here in california close to redwood city {bout 75 miles} it was despicable what the media did.. I still ask "where's the proof scott did it" all I saw was a lieing sack o shit being demonized over and over.. he was convicted and sentenced to DEATH FOR being a lieing cheating scumbag.

Yup...not even a PREPONDERANCE of circumstantial evidence in that one...if any case stands to be overturned, I think this may be it (although I still think it likely he did it)


Personally I think he did it. I just wish they had presented a better case.
on Feb 02, 2005

Reply #13 By: Gideon MacLeish - 2/2/2005 3:19:39 PM
moderate,


In answer to your question, "what drmiler said" (I didn't feel the idiot deserved the points).


BTW Gid....If you post the idiot gets points. The amount of the material in the the post means nothing.
on Feb 02, 2005
Reply #15 By: Gideon MacLeish - 2/2/2005 3:34:45 PM
Living here in california close to redwood city {bout 75 miles} it was despicable what the media did.. I still ask "where's the proof scott did it" all I saw was a lieing sack o shit being demonized over and over.. he was convicted and sentenced to DEATH FOR being a lieing cheating scumbag.

Yup...not even a PREPONDERANCE of circumstantial evidence in that one...if any case stands to be overturned, I think this may be it (although I still think it likely he did it)


I think so too... but the death sentence on a "think he did it" just does'nt cut it.
on Feb 02, 2005
Living here in california close to redwood city {bout 75 miles} it was despicable what the media did.. I still ask "where's the proof scott did it" all I saw was a lieing sack o shit being demonized over and over.. he was convicted and sentenced to DEATH FOR being a lieing cheating scumbag.


just don't get me started on capital punishment...
on Feb 02, 2005
The problem I see with people is that they look at the world in black and white. They say, "Well, since FOX News is biased, then surely CBS must not be!" or "Since American news is biased, surely non-American news can't be!" People need to understand that the world isn't black and white. It's more like wrestling: shades of gray.
on Feb 03, 2005

BTW Gid....If you post the idiot gets points. The amount of the material in the the post means nothing

drmiler,

It's MY blog. Greggbert doesn't get points off of it, period. And I trolled him thrice yesterday (twice on his blog), so any points he might have had were negated, and then some.

on Feb 03, 2005

Reply #21 By: Gideon MacLeish - 2/3/2005 12:34:10 PM
BTW Gid....If you post the idiot gets points. The amount of the material in the the post means nothing

drmiler,
It's MY blog. Greggbert doesn't get points off of it, period


Your right it's your blog. If he posts and it doesn't matter where (yours or his blog) he gets 5 points. If you doubt that do a test. Go to your blog and get your score. Then go post on someones blog. Wait approx 30 and then go check your score again. It'll be 5 points higher. And your right trolling him 3 times in 1 day will definetly hurt his score.
on Feb 03, 2005

drmiler,


My rule with someone like that is to troll them enough to remove the points they received from their initial post. I know how the system works, being the points whore that I am...lol, and part of the "psychological" aspect is to delete them from existence.


Incidentally, gregg's single article shows he's somewhat to the left of mythgarr and dabe...meaning throwing him out was just saving me unnecessary grief later...lol

on Feb 03, 2005
Reply #23 By: Gideon MacLeish - 2/3/2005 2:25:37 PM
drmiler,


My rule with someone like that is to troll them enough to remove the points they received from their initial post. I know how the system works, being the points whore that I am...lol, and part of the "psychological" aspect is to delete them from existence.


You, a points whore? I thought that was my job.
on Feb 04, 2005

Yup...not even a PREPONDERANCE of circumstantial evidence in that one...if any case stands to be overturned, I think this may be it (although I still think it likely he did it)

I thinkthe jury may have seen something we did not, but I agree with you 100% from what I saw of the case.

on Feb 07, 2005

in answer to the question posed by your title, apparently there soon will be--once the fox network fully absorbs al jazeerah.   Link  

"If we really roll up our sleeves and make this merger work, we may wind up with the fairest and most balanced network mankind has ever known.”--rupert murdoch

on Feb 07, 2005

Reply #26 By: kingbee - 2/7/2005 4:54:11 AM
in answer to the question posed by your title, apparently there soon will be--once the fox network fully absorbs al jazeerah. Link

"If we really roll up our sleeves and make this merger work, we may wind up with the fairest and most balanced network mankind has ever known.”--rupert murdoch


You realize of course that this is NOT true. The link you posted clearly states satire. The title also includes the word "humor"
on Feb 07, 2005

You realize of course that this is NOT true. The link you posted clearly states satire. The title also includes the word "humor"


ya think?

on Feb 07, 2005

Reply #28 By: kingbee - 2/7/2005 11:11:36 AM
You realize of course that this is NOT true. The link you posted clearly states satire. The title also includes the word "humor"



ya think?


I try not to. It gets me in to much trouble.
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