The journey from there to here
Published on January 25, 2005 By Gideon MacLeish In Politics

I logged off the computer yesterday in utter outrage. I had considered adding a JoeUser to my permanent blacklist for what was said. After some "cool down" time, I have decided against tht option, but remain no less peeved.

The person in question, was, at least honest. Many of the left don't even meet THAT standard.

The offense was by a person who labelled a baby a "parasite". That this person woul have such utter disdain or contempt for human life puts the person, in my opinion, on a philosophically equal plane with Adolph Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Ted Bundy, and any number of other deviants. They basically reduced an abortion to the equivalent of giving a pet a flea bath, and offended the sensibilities of anyone slightly to the left of Margaret Sanger.

I have written article after article on how the left has turned away many of its potential supporters with the hideous agenda they insist on pressing. It is not only not moderate, it leaves many moderates clamoring for a conservative backlash to their opinions, and upsets any sort of balance we might hope to have in politics. Not only that, it undermines the legitimate arguments of the more moderate left who do not share such contmpt for human life.

I have always prided myself on respecting a number of diverse opinions, but I do not respect this one, and will NEVER respect this one. I have lost all respect for the blogger in question over this, and the only reason they are NOT blacklisted is the same reason I don't think the KKK should be censored: people need to see that ugliness, if only to understand the TRUE agenda of some of these militants.

Personally, I wouldn't be so inclinced to lump this person with the left as much as with a sociopathic mindset, if it weren't for the fact that the left is utterly silent when outrageous statements such as this are uttered.


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on Jan 25, 2005
Not wishing to earn the wrath here, but technically speaking, from a physical standpoint, the unborn is a parasite:

Websters:
Main Entry: par·a·site
Pronunciation: 'par-&-"sIt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, from Latin parasitus, from Greek parasitos, from para- + sitos grain, food
3. Something that resembles a biological parasite in dependence on something else for existence or support without making a useful or adequate return

This does not take into account psychological benefits, nor does it pertain to Teenagers.

IG
on Jan 25, 2005

IG, Webster's definitions do not cover the complete biological classification of "parasite".


There's a HUGE difference between "progeny" and "parasite".

on Jan 25, 2005

without making a useful or adequate return


And even in your own definition, THAT is why a child, unborn or not, is NOT a parasite.

on Jan 25, 2005
What physical benefit is there to the host?

IG
on Jan 25, 2005
I thought cacto's comment was disgusting too but I'm not so sure he is 'left'. I recall him whinging about the 'intellectual bankruptcy of the left' only a few days ago and there's not much in his comments which suggests he is 'left', but I could be wrong. He's pretty young, I think; maybe if/when he is a parent he'll see things differently. I think you're right to be disgusted, but it's a reach to make this another left=bad right=good thingie.
on Jan 25, 2005

What physical benefit is there to the host?

IG


IG,


the definition you provided does not qualify it as to having to be a physical benefit.


Please don't push this issue. As I hinted at in the article, if you view an unborn child as a parasite, you and I have NOTHING in common.


cacto is a "she", I believe, and is an avowed socialist. She also hypocritically derided me for my questioning of the tsunami aid being provided by public funds (I wonder how many aid recipients there are pregnant?)

on Jan 25, 2005
IG, I think you misunderstand what a baby is.  It is a symbiote, not a parasite.  Parasites are not of the hosts flesh and blood.
on Jan 25, 2005
I think you're right to be disgusted, but it's a reach to make this another left=bad right=good thingie.


I'm in complete agreement in this case.

The comments in question were certainly disgusting, but I don't see how you can lump the left in with this one any more than you can lump the US in with the Nazis because we didn't send troops until we were attacked.

This was a stupid comment. As I've said many times before, sometimes, in fact almost always, a stupid comment is just a stupid comment.
on Jan 25, 2005

Philomedy,


Maybe it isn't a left/right thing, but I personally haven't encountered to date any right wingers making such assertions. And, for the record, I have never made the opposite assertion of right=good.

on Jan 25, 2005
When you think about it, all humans are parasites, because we are dependent on something else (the Earth) for existence and support and we do not make a useful or adequate return.
on Jan 25, 2005

Juxta,


If the broad definition is used, yes, that is true. But in a sense it is not, as all living species are interdependent on others for survival. BUT...and this is part of my point...the blogger in question derided me heavily for some of my statements about the tsunami aid. IF we are "all parasites", then the tsunami was nothing more than nature's flea bath and we shouldn't do anything to help the survivors...a thought that goes VERY MUCH against that blogger's mindset.

on Jan 25, 2005
IG, I think you misunderstand what a baby is. It is a symbiote, not a parasite.


One minute, let me get my dictionary:

Main Entry: sym·bi·o·sis
1 : the living together in more or less intimate association or close union of two dissimilar organisms
2 : the intimate living together of two dissimilar organisms in a mutually beneficial relationship; especially : MUTUALISM

Thank you Dr. Guy.

IG

on Jan 25, 2005
Cacto is a boy, possibly named Nick, from his blog:

'As a young man with no children, moderately wealthy parents and in the dying days of my university education, there isn't a party in the land that offers a credible good deal for me. Not for me the baby bonus, not for me the childcare copayments, not for me the tax cuts, not for me the improvement of the public health system. Instead both major parties have failed me in nearly every respect.'

No way this guy is an avowed socialist, sounds to me like he's in the middle.
on Jan 25, 2005

david,


OK, my bad on cacto's gender.


Cacto has, however, repeatedly attacked me for my anti-socialist stances, on several different threads, meaning maybe he's inclined to play devil's advocate.


However, the fact remains that his viewing of an unborn child as a "parasite" and his position on foreign aid (reasserted in one of his last articles before he left JU for awhile), are inconsistent stances at best. I remain firm on exactly what kind of deviant monster I consider him to be for his former position.

on Jan 25, 2005
If the broad definition is used, yes, that is true. But in a sense it is not, as all living species are interdependent on others for survival. BUT...and this is part of my point...the blogger in question derided me heavily for some of my statements about the tsunami aid. IF we are "all parasites", then the tsunami was nothing more than nature's flea bath and we shouldn't do anything to help the survivors...a thought that goes VERY MUCH against that blogger's mindset.


That is pretty hypocritical, especially since the tsunami victims are parasites by their definition (what the hell are they doing for us? Nothing!).
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