Holy Double Standards, Batman!

Published on January 20, 2005 By Gideon MacLeish In Politics

A few years ago, a friend of mine, after his third child, decided it was time to get snipped. So, he spoke with the doctors about it, and found out something interesting:

In the state of Wisconsin, at least, a married man MUST have his wife's permission to have a vasectomy!

Contrary to a statement on a recent blog, it is not required (in Wisconsin, at least) for a woman to receive her husband's permission to have an abortion. There's an obvious double standard here that I just don't get.

Comments (Page 2)

drmiler

on Jan 21, 2005

Reply #15 By: kingbee - 1/20/2005 9:29:35 PM
In the state of Wisconsin, at least, a married man MUST have his wife's permission to have a vasectomy!

wisconsin being the state that issues free hunting licenses to the legally blind, im sorta scared to ask but...who has to give permission to single or separated men? can ya get it done free by a legally blind doctor?

messybuu

on Jan 21, 2005

What's the law on hysterectomies? If they require the husband's approval then there is no double standard at all. Losing the ability to father a child and having an abortion are two very different things. It's like saying that masturbation or having sex outside of the right times is wrong because it stops all those sperm from reaching eggs. You can't really compare them.

It is pretty much the same thing, as both is birth control. Besides, isn't the man's testicles his own property and not his wife's? Shouldn't it be his choice and not the government's to do what he wants with his body? Surely reproductive rights don't apply only to women!

ParaTed2k

on Jan 21, 2005

A woman can choose to have her tubes tied. But no woman would ever choose to have her uterus removed unless it was completely necessary for her health.

In the "just as you thought it was safe to make a blanket statement" department....

I knew a woman who had a hysterectomy purely for political reasons. She was an ardent feminist and lesbian, who proudly told anyone in earshot that she had her uterus removed because "all it's for is so that men can knock me up, well, it's gone so they have no control over my body anymore!!"

Of course, as you've figured out from reading my blog, I have known some people who were pretty far out there!! ;~D

ParaTed2k

on Jan 21, 2005

legally blind

The whole "legally blind" thing makes me wonder if I'm supposed to register my colorblindness somewhere. Until I do, am I "illegally colorblind"?? ;~D

kingbee

on Jan 21, 2005

I knew a woman who had a hysterectomy purely for political reasons. She was an ardent feminist and lesbian, who proudly told anyone in earshot that she had her uterus removed because "all it's for is so that men can knock me up, well, it's gone so they have no control over my body anymore!!"

i saw a documentary on one of the movie channels (cant remember which nor the title) about a woman who'd undergone transgender surgery is/was now physiologicaly male dying of ovarian cancer. i seem to recall reading there were several other women who found themselves in that peculiarly tragic quandry.

kingbee

on Jan 21, 2005

The whole "legally blind" thing makes me wonder if I'm supposed to register my colorblindness somewhere. Until I do, am I "illegally colorblind"??

id much prefer finding myself in deer country with an illegally colorblind hunter--even one who couldnt detect fluorescent orange from tan--than a guy with a 30.06 and a guide dog.

on the other hand, if you wanna turn yourself in, lemme call amw first to see if there's any kinda reward for you

Dr Guy

on Jan 21, 2005

Uh, try Tubuligation. The only time a hystorectomy is done is when the uterus is cancerous, or in other ways severely damaged. Unless you are into gleefully mutilating women.

Dr Guy

on Jan 21, 2005

It is pretty much the same thing, as both is birth control. Besides, isn't the man's testicles his own property and not his wife's? Shouldn't it be his choice and not the government's to do what he wants with his body? Surely reproductive rights don't apply only to women!

Succint and very well Stated. You get an insightful for that.

kingbee

on Jan 21, 2005

Succint and very well Stated

hysterectomy is the same thing as a vasectomy because both are birth control?

Dr Guy

on Jan 21, 2005

hysterectomy is the same thing as a vasectomy because both are birth control

Read it again. It had nothing to do with a hysterectomy. It had everything to do with the right of privacy to ones own body. If abortion is legal under the right of privacy, then so is a man's testes. You so love to mis-read and mis-quote. How else would you even have any thing to say?

kingbee

on Jan 21, 2005

read it again yourself. reply #17

after quoting this:

What's the law on hysterectomies? If they require the husband's approval then there is no double standard at all

this reply was posted:

It is pretty much the same thing, as both is birth control. Besides, isn't the man's testicles his own property and not his wife's? Shouldn't it be his choice and not the government's to do what he wants with his body? Surely reproductive rights don't apply only to women!

Dr Guy

on Jan 21, 2005

read it again yourself. reply #17

after quoting this:

You quoted the first, I quoted the second and commented on the rights and choice. try again. I said nothing about hysterectomies, only that the right of privacy should apply in both cases. Or is that beyond your comprehension?

kingbee

on Jan 21, 2005

I said nothing about hysterectomies, only that the right of privacy should apply in both cases. Or is that beyond your comprehension

must be. when i quote a comment and rate it as insightful, im indicating my approval of the entire quote.

silly me.

Dr Guy

on Jan 21, 2005

must be. when i quote a comment and rate it as insightful, im indicating my approval of the entire quote.

silly me.

Me too. Not the entire thread. As I stated, I agreed with and thought insightful his comment, not the issue of hysterectomies. Hence the reason I did NOT QUOTE it.

messybuu

on Jan 21, 2005

I wasn't referring to hysterectomies. I was referring to the comment about abortions and vasectomies being two very different things.

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