The journey from there to here
I finally got one of the statistics I wanted to see for a long time: the domestic gross for Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" came in at $118 million dollars. While this is impressive for a "documentary" (although I really wish they'd quit calling it that), I think a fair analysis of the numbers are in order for those who insist that the numbers show the majority of Americans to believe Moore's view:

*Assuming a ticket price of $7 a ticket (averages are higher than this, I believe; I haven't been to a movie in a long time), this translates to fewer than 17 million tickets sold.

*Assuming that everyone went to see the movie only once, this translates to just over 6 percent of the population.

*The above number doesn't factor in spouses taking their spouses with opposing views to the movie to try to prove to them that Bush is who Moore says he is. It also doesn't take into account students who were encouraged to watch it as an extra credit assignment, or conservatives who saw it just to find talking points to disprove.

*There were also individuals who went to see it as many times as they could; I know of at least one.

While 6 percent of the population is a sizable faction, it does not represent anywhere close to a majority. And my suspicions, for the reasons stated above, would be that the numbers are more like 2-3 % of the population that actually support Moore's flawed analysis. There's no real way of telling, but the fact remains that Moore's movie does not represent a mandate for this, or any president.

signing off,

Gideon MacLeish

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on Sep 06, 2004
Well done!  Individual thought, what a novel idea!   Anyone who doesn't just regurgitate statistics but takes those statistics and applies them to reality has my respect.  I can almost forgive you for not being a Republican..........just kidding!!
on Sep 06, 2004
Of course, the statistic I am going to be more interested in is the rentals/sales of the same film when it comes out on October 5th.... as I believe that's where Bowling for Columbine got its biggest push.
on Sep 06, 2004
Those numbers aren't counted in the box office gross, though. But yes, I intend to keep my eye on it as well (sales more than rentals...I know many conservatives who plan on renting it just to examine its accuracy, but don't hold to Moore's ideology, which is why they didn't see it in the theaters).
on Sep 06, 2004
Am I mathematically challenged? 17 Million tickets/viewers out of a population of 300 million people is about 6 percent of our population, not 17 percent! Have I missed something or what?
on Sep 06, 2004
Gideon: Interesting post. It comes out on DVD when my husband is here on leave and we plan to watch it together. He saw a bit of it when it was in theaters because some of the soldiers bought a bootleg copies of it, but it was of too poor quality to watch for my husband to comfortably watch.

I personally think Michael Moore can be funny but he has little credibility with me. We intend to watch it and discuss it together . . . primarily because we feel it is one of those things like the Michael Jackson Thriller video or the Rubix Cube . . . it's a pop culture thing that years from now we will be able to say we have seen.
on Sep 06, 2004
You're right, I screwed up. But my math error was to the high side, so your statement only reinforces my assertion.
on Sep 06, 2004
Am I mathematically challenged? 17 Million tickets/viewers out of a population of 300 million people is about 6 percent of our population, not 17 percent! Have I missed something or what?


Article has been edited to reflect the true numbers. Thanks for the catch.
on Sep 06, 2004
And he sold 4 million copies of Stupid White Men too....

See, my question is.... do you have to have seen the movie to support his point of view?
on Sep 06, 2004
Wow . . . I just read what I wrote . . . I am on crack or something?

What I meant by:
He saw a bit of it when it was in theaters because some of the soldiers bought a bootleg copies of it, but it was of too poor quality to watch for my husband to comfortably watch.


was . . . He saw a bit of it when it was in theaters because some of the soldiers bought bootleg (no a) copies of it, but it was of too poor quality (no to watch) for my husband to comfortably watch.

Eh? What's wrong with me?!?
on Sep 06, 2004
Eh? What's wrong with me?!?


I think you've been eating too much red herring and trying to avoid your aussie booting, personally...lol
on Sep 06, 2004
Hey Gideon, you're not counting those of us who have, er, legally downloaded it and watched it that way.
on Sep 06, 2004
anglo,

No, I counted you. That's why I give the range of 2-3% instead of a flat 2%...lol
on Sep 06, 2004
Drat! And I doubt the FCC keeps tabs on how many downloads there've been, so I'll just whip up some statistics and say about 1.4M people have downloaded it. (I'll put a dollop of that crap on my smoked red herring.)
on Sep 06, 2004
No, just cite IPSOA as your source (the Institute for Pulling Statistics out of one's Ass
on Sep 06, 2004
Gideon: I love that! I'm going to start citing IPSOA. Brilliant!
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