The journey from there to here
Does this sound like you?
Published on August 16, 2004 By Gideon MacLeish In Politics
For the benefit of Joeuser readers, I am going to begin printing portions of the Libertarian Party's position on various issues. I may give equal time to other parties, as time permits, but my first loyalty is to my own party. If you find yourself identifying strongly with these positions, you may go to the LP website at: www.lp.org, or you may email me at: miner432004@yahoo.com for further information. I believe it's time Americans got information on more than just the Democrats and the Republicans:

Highlights and Summary of
The Libertarian Party's Solution to America's Crime Problem

An approach to criminal justice and crime control that is smart, compassionate and tough. An approach that will make our streets safe again.

America suffers from an epidemic of violence and crime, victimizing one family out of four every year. There is a murder every half hour, a rape every five minutes, and a theft every four seconds.

Despite decades of tough talk, the anti-crime policies of the Republicans and Democrats have clearly failed. The Libertarian Party believes a fresh approach is needed. That's why we're offering this five-point plan for making America's streets safe again:

Step 1. Protect Victims' Rights
Protecting the rights and interests of victims should be the basis of our criminal justice system. Victims should have the right to be present, consulted and heard throughout the prosecution of their case.

In addition, Libertarians would do more than just punish criminals. We would also make them pay restitution to their victims for the damage they've caused, including property loss, medical costs, pain, and suffering. If you are the victim of a crime, the criminal should fully compensate you for your loss.

Step 2. End Prohibition
Drug prohibition does more to make Americans unsafe than any other factor. Just as alcohol prohibition gave us Al Capone and the mafia, drug prohibition has given us the Crips, the Bloods and drive-by shootings. Consider the historical evidence: America's murder rate rose nearly 70% during alcohol prohibition, but returned to its previous levels after prohibition ended. Now, since the War on Drugs began, America's murder rates have doubled. The cause/effect relationship is clear. Prohibition is putting innocent lives at risk.

What's more, drug prohibition also inflates the cost of drugs, leading users to steal to support their high priced habits. It is estimated that drug addicts commit 25% of all auto thefts, 40% of robberies and assaults, and 50% of burglaries and larcenies. Prohibition puts your property at risk. Finally, nearly one half of all police resources are devoted to stopping drug trafficking, instead of preventing violent crime. The bottom line? By ending drug prohibition Libertarians would double the resources available for crime prevention, and significantly reduce the number of violent criminals at work in your neighborhood.

Step 3. Get Tough on Real Crime
The Libertarian Party is the party of personal responsibility. We believe that anyone who harms another person should be held responsible for that action. By contrast, the Democrats and Republicans have created a system where criminals can get away with almost anything.

For instance: sentences seldom mean what they say. Fewer than one out of every four violent felons serves more than four years. Libertarians would dramatically reduce the number of these early releases by eliminating their root cause - prison over-crowding.

Since nearly six out of every ten federal prison inmates are there for non-violent drug-related offenses, it's clear that drug prohibition is the primary source of this over-crowding. It has been estimated that every drug offender imprisoned results in the release of one violent criminal, who then commits an average of 40 robberies, 7 assaults, 110 burglaries and 25 auto thefts. Early release of violent criminals puts you and your family at risk. It must stop.

Step 4. Protect the Right to Self-Defense
We believe that the private ownership of firearms is part of the solution to America's crime epidemic, not part of the problem. Evidence: law-abiding citizens in Florida have been able to carry concealed weapons since 1987. During that time, the murder rate in Florida has declined 21% while the national murder rate has increased 12%.

In addition, evidence shows that self-defense with guns is the safest response to violent crime. It results in fewer injuries to the defender (17.4% injury rate) than any other response, including not resisting at all (24.7% injury rate). Libertarians would repeal waiting periods, concealed carry laws, and other restrictions that make it difficult for victims to defend themselves, and end the prosecution of individuals for exercising their rights of self-defense.

Step 5. Address the Root Causes of Crime
Any society that lets kids grow up dependent on government welfare, attending government schools that fail to teach, and entering an economy where government policy has crushed opportunity, will be a society that breeds criminals. No permanent solution to crime will be found until we address these root causes of crime.

The Libertarian Party would increase employment opportunities by slashing taxes and government red tape. We would also end the welfare system with its culture of dependence and hopelessness. Most important of all, we would promote low-cost private alternatives to the failed government school system.

Conclusion
The Libertarian Party's anti-crime plan would do what the Democrats and Republicans have not done:

Respect the victim's rights and make criminals pay full restitution.
Hold all criminals responsible for their actions.
Double the police resources available for crime prevention without any additional government spending.
Reduce the number of criminals at large on our streets.
Defend the most effective crime deterrent available, the private ownership of guns.
Create jobs, end welfare dependence, and improve education.
This Libertarian program would help make America's streets safe again.



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on Aug 16, 2004
You're a Libertarian Gideon? I had no idea, I think we may end up agreeing on more than I had thought. I've been reading a lot of your replies in other blogs and I mostly agree with your well-stated viewpoints.

Good article, keep it up.
on Aug 16, 2004
Thanks, Lord Shitzu. I enjoy reading many of your replies as well.

I will continue with the LP platform, category by category over time. I think they are extremely relevant at this time, personally.
on Aug 16, 2004
I'd be very interested in hearing the LP's stance on Education and Censorship issues, though I think I have an idea about their positions on the latter.
on Aug 16, 2004
it's very nice to see fellow libertarians pushing the libertarian philosophy, thank you!
on Aug 16, 2004
I'd be very interested in hearing the LP's stance on Education and Censorship issues, though I think I have an idea about their positions on the latter.


I will continue the posts at least once a day, but will try to space a little between articles so that I don't work against myself.

it's very nice to see fellow libertarians pushing the libertarian philosophy, thank you!


You're welcome, fragged. I think the Libertarian platform is terribly underexposed. When I asked my HS history teacher about it 17 (it doesn't seem that long ago) years ago, I was given a canned reply and a lecture about "wasting your vote". Now, I've come to believe that voting for either of the two major parties, if you don't agree with their platform, is truly wasting your vote.
on Aug 16, 2004
Under a "free market" educational system, why would anyone want to set up a school in a poor neighborhood? Is it realistic to expect altruism to educate those unable to afford their own education?
on Aug 16, 2004
Is it realistic to expect altruism to educate those unable to afford their own education?


Yes, frankly. If you have ever used a public library, those were initially financed through altruism (Andrew Carnegie), not through taxes. There is actually tremendous incentive for such provision, as better educated individuals tend to provide a better labor pool.

Thank you for your comments.
on Aug 17, 2004
Good job gideon. We do need a 3rd party to be big instead of always democrats and republicans. I do lean towards democrats like dean, sharpton, jesse jackson, kerry gore clinton, etc. I respect a lot of ralph nader and he should run but not try to get him off the ballot cause you think kerry will lose votes. Or just get him on cause republicans want kerry to lose. He said he will not accept any signature who will just get on cause a republican wants kerry out. According to my beliefs I am libertarian. You right wingers maybe shocked if you read any of my posts before. I am rooting for kerry cause Bush is goin crazy and is irresponsible. I was for gore 4 years ago. Im not old enough to vote yet but a 3rd party being big will change politics. Im getting sick of this dictatorship in the white house. If i was old enough to vote i would vote, in the scenario we are in, I'd vote democrat cause they have the chance right now. Especially cause bush is in. And war is terror.

I hope that a 3rd party gets in some day and I hope someone who is not male or someone who is not white get in office some day. All we see is a religious white democrat or republican in office. Right now the democrats are what the people need cause they are the closest to third party beliefs rather than republicans. There are good republicans like mccain and dole. But the bush administration has divided their party. Republicans hate bush but will vote for him cause he is from their party. Some may not vote cause they just cant vote for kerry. I wish dean was the nominee but kerry is in cause people want bush out and edwards adds more strength. The 3rd party is great and libertarians ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN FREEDOM UNLIKE THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. The democrats are not all bad but they have the leadership right now and I think without democrats 3rd parties would never get a chance. The system is rigged like nader said and he is right. We need a change in politics and stop the republicans from censoring everything(janet jackson thing was stupid to argue with, didnt even show the boob, the star was there).

I kind of wish that they should kick republicans out and have libertarians in their and other good parties with the democrats to debate things. Kick out all the psycho right wing republicans and zel miller type democrats, but keep the few republicans who care about our nation. The John Mccain type people. Democrats, green party, libertarian, independent, Mccain type people and whatever good party I forgot to say that agrees mostly with libertarians. And all candidates from each party can have a chance to win.
on Aug 17, 2004
Carnegie paid to have the libraries built, but the yearly maintenance on the libraries was paid through taxes. If there was really tremendous incentive to do something like what Carnegie did, more people would have done it. The truth is, you didn't need to be well-read to work in a steel mill, which is how Carnegie made his fortune.

on Aug 17, 2004
By the way, I think having criminals pay restitution and preserving the right to bear arms are good ideas.
on Aug 17, 2004
It always cheers me up to hear a well stated argument in favor of eliniminating the drug laws. Neither my liberal nor my conservative friends will give me the time of day on this issue, and I don't understand why -- they seem to reject the idea out of hand.

I am tempted to nitpick you on the other items here, but #2 expresses my views exactly. (Although I am assuming that all citizens are fully accountable for any acts they commit, regardless of the use of any substance or their depedence upon any substance -- but that is implied to be your idea.)
on Aug 17, 2004
The problem with the drug/crime argument is that violent crime has plummeted recently. Link

Property crime has too. Link
on Aug 17, 2004
I am tempted to nitpick you on the other items here, but #2 expresses my views exactly. (Although I am assuming that all citizens are fully accountable for any acts they commit, regardless of the use of any substance or their depedence upon any substance -- but that is implied to be your idea.)


precisely. That is fully in accordance with the beliefs of the Libertarian Party: punish the crime, not the circumstances (drug use) surrounding the crime.
on Aug 17, 2004
We would also make them pay restitution to their victims for the damage they've caused, including property loss, medical costs, pain, and suffering.


I agree with most of the posistions but I am wary of this one. If someone has just gotten out of prison they most likely have little ability to pay for all of the above. If they can't what then? Put them back in prison? Do they turn back to crime so they can manage to pay this huge bill?

Arming the public doesn't really appeal to me either but I agree with the rest of it.
on Aug 17, 2004
I agree with most of the posistions but I am wary of this one. If someone has just gotten out of prison they most likely have little ability to pay for all of the above. If they can't what then? Put them back in prison? Do they turn back to crime so they can manage to pay this huge bill?


Even if someone pays a restitution payment as little as 5 bucks a paycheck, there's some recompense going back to the coffers. With the system we have now, crime costs an incredible amount of money in lost insurance claims, victim's compensation funds, what have you. As someone who has had to pay restitution, from my point of view, it's a continued deterrent to crime, as you're reminded of it every paycheck.

Arming the public doesn't really appeal to me either but I agree with the rest of it.


I live in a community where many citizens open carry. Violent crime is almost unheard of here.

This is one area where I am a staunch conservative. I have seen cultures where children are raised around guns, and raised responsibly around them, and the result hasn't been higher crime, but rather, lower.

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