Well I don't give a flying hoot what anyone says/thinks....I got Vista Ultimate and it's worth every cent I paid out for it. Not only is it the most stable OS I've ever used, it's looks ten times better than XP and is no harder to use, so anyone proficient in the use of XP should have no real trouble navigating their way around Vista. It's a Windows OS on a home or business PC, for crying out loud, not the juggernaut system that's running NASA's huge data base.

Seems to me that too many PC users are paying too much heed to the Vista doom & gloom being proliferated by the media soothsayers who not only believe their own hype but think they know more about manufacturing, presenting and marketing an OS/software. I've made my own evaluation of Vista based on my experience with it, and all that DRM interference talk is total BS as far as I can tell. I can play all my CD's and DVD's on Vista without issue, just as I can the songs I downloaded from eMusic to get some of the more obscure music I wanted.

Furthermore, apart from a couple of functions of my Audigy 4 sound-card being unavailable in Vista, I've had no problems with any of my hardware or software running without major issue, and if I need those record or EQ functions, I can revert to my on-board card so have lost nothing of real importance in the update from XP.

Okay, there's a bit of a learning curve, but it's no different to when XP became the new kid on the block after 98 & 2000, when non-belivers/non-supporters (perhaps some of the same) came crawling out of the woodwork to discredit the very OS they're now trying to defend/hang on to. So glad pre-historic man wasn't afraid of change/something new, otherwise we'd still be living in caves, eating raw or half cooked meat and wearing bear skins for modesty.

Besides, when taking into consideration inflation and the CPI, etc, Vista is roughly equivelent in price to XP when it first hit the shelves, so in that context I fail to see how MS is ripping people off. Also, my mother's machine is 5+ years old (with a P4 2.8 ghz and 1.5gigs of RAM) and it more than adequately runs Vista with Aero enabled, so all this latest and greatest hardware is a must to run Vista is more bullsh!t and hype from those still afraid to venture out of their caves to face the breaking light of a new dawn.

I definitely do not plan to "upgrade" to Vista. Backward compatibility is important. I'm perfectly happy with XP.

frankly i have winblows vista ultimate x64 and i have no probs with it i have absolutly no crashes no BSOD ETC what so ever.though the damn thing is a memory and cpu hog but honestly i think it's one heck of a rock solid,stable OS..now watch after i said that it'll probably crash on me LOL

a) I've got hardware in our company network for which no Vista drivers exist, nor are they planned.
Upgrading all "eligible" PCs to Vista would cost a fortune.
c) As people have said (and as is my experience too) Vista is a resource hog. I DO NOT plan on upgrading hardware just for a shiny new OS.

Final word: No Vista for my employer. Zero benefit, lots of drawbacks. Buhbye Vista, have a nice day.

At home? I don't see myself shelling out that much cash just for a new OS. My current OS does all I need it to, doesn't crash, has perfect driver support. Since I build my private PCs myself I don't get a bundled OS with it... thus... again... buhbye Vista, 'twas nice to skip you.

That's it, in a nutshell!



That's really the elephant in the room, isn't it?



You missed my point, I think. I know that change is inevitable, and as an IT pro, I have to know something about Vista. My question is whether it is worth it since Microsoft's next O/S is due to ship in two years.

It is a virtual certainty that MS' next O/S will fully implement 64 bit processing, something that is not fully supported at present. Both hardware and software will be better implemented for the 64 bit environment, making Vista little more than an extended, expensive beta test.

I'm not heralding the death of the boys of Redmond, not by any means. That would be inconceivable at this point. I am saying, however, that there are many Vista related concerns that will make the end user think long and hard about alternatives. And that as a result Microsoft could suffer some on market share. But when your market share's something like 95%, you've got nowhere to go but down.

Bingo. Even when I get a newer machine online, I'm not planning on sacrificing the dinosaurs just to get my home network up to speed.

Right now I have three computers, a fourth in the planning stages, and a fifth hopefully awaiting the successful soldering of a new power jack. Two desktop PC's have 1.8 and 1.0 ghz procs, respectively, the third (my Ubuntu machine) has an 866 mhz PIII. The laptop I'm hoping to revive has a 1.0 ghz proc. Only the planned PC (the TRS-80 case mod, for those of you keeping score at home) will even DREAM of 64 bit processing...and I'm kind of waiting to see what comes out of the Intel/AMD price wars (I'm an AMD man, so they'll likely get my green). I don't plan on throwing any of my machines away even though I know they are antiques in the computer world. They're still functional for most of our apps, and it seems silly to migrate older applications that use fewer system resources onto a massively overpowered machine. Better to save the power for the programs that can make better use of it.

Will my new machine be a Vista machine? Probably. But will I upgrade my P4 to Vista specs? Sorry, it's just not worth it.

lest we remind ourselves... remember windows 98 wasn't debugged to a usable OS until second edition. and then with the release of XP, it wasn't fixed until service pack 2. When the Vista SP2 is released then maybe we can look foward to a decent OS. Until then XP Pro is staying Home.

That probably about covers it...

Very true...even Windows 95 was problematic until the later versions with USB support.

I've had very little trouble with backward compatability, myself (the only game i play happens to not work). And yes, i still don't have logitech drivers that work for my keyboard. But i'm on a 64 bit system..

my little sister and brother in law both just bought new computers, my sis has a dell pc, bil has a vaio laptop. I'd say the bil is the complete 'clueless' of computer users, even as he runs his own business. He has no trouble using his new computer, when i honestly expected him not to like vista. The sis, while being saavy in computers, is not an expert - and she's also had no trouble coming in to vista. she likes it, especially the application previews in the taskbar, alt tab, and how the new shell is (oh, and the games ).

People who upgrade are going to have trouble. I can't blame MS, to move forward you eventually have to cut off dead weight, and if that means we need new device drivers, or if 16 bit has to be cut out, then so be it. In another 6 years we'll be phasing out32 bit. But if you buy a computer with vista on it, it runs great! Things are different, but i dont believe so different that people can't adjust. You can always set it back to classic mode and not have to sort through the flash, as my father has done with XP.

It requires certain taste, but i believe new computer buyers have an advantage we didn't have when we bought XP based computers for the same price.

All of my hardware and software work fine if not better in Vista. Well worth the money.

If you think that you can upgrade from XP to Vista, You are going to have problems.
If your going to upgrade to vist then buy a knew computer with vista in it. You will not have no problems. A computer goes down the drain after 2 years. All Games and softwear that come out every year require you to have more Ram or a better proccesor.
Same goes with vista. Just think about your first computer wich probably had 34mb of ram with windows 98 and then try to install xp. Good luck. That goes with games.
if your computer is not up to date your going to have problems.
Like someone said if vista has a probleme with a game, It will try to fix the problem if it can. as long as you have all requirement.

Again if your going to upgade to Vista then buy a knew computer with Vista in it. you will see that thing will go smooth and you will never look back to XP. Plus most new computers have at least 1gb of ram.

Its sad to say to buy a computer but thats just how the computer word works.
Tecnology only gets better at a fast rate.
I have waited for a long time to get a knew computer and love Vista. But i know after a few years i will be wanting a new one.

All of my computers can run Vista fine. Even one that originally came with 98SE.

I'm another one of "those" who really likes Vista. In the beginning, I said I would hold off mainly due to the cost. But when I suddenly got hit with a reality check, the cost differential between XP Pro and Vista Ultimate OEM was a mere $50. Given the age of XP, the cost for Vista was on par or perhaps even less, given inflation, etc.

Secondly, I upgraded (in place install) over my XP Home. I did have a problem on the first attempt, but that was due to my own ignorance, which I suspect many of the complaints about Vista flow from. Once I uninstalled the 3 applications which either monitored or wrote to disk the installation was flawless and virtually hands-free. Of course, my system was squeaky clean, defragged, etc.

Lastly, acclimating to Vista was not only easy but enjoyable. Do you hear people yelling and stomping the ground because their new car doesn't have everything in the same location as their old one? Let's be honest . . . change is something which many (most?) find difficult and even painful. I, for one, am enjoying Vista immensely. The "Instant Search" alone is worth the price of admission. As others have already mentioned, Vista is stable, fast, productive and it sure is pretty. If Microsoft never came out with a service pack for Vista I would be no less happy than I am now. For me.... Vista works and it works well. After spending day after day repairing everyone's PC problems, I look forward to sitting at my Vista machine.

*shaking my head in disappointnent*

After reading most of the comments on here right to the very bottom of the page, it really does show how dumb alot of you people are. Expect for the tech people that have been certified and been a tech person for a long time.
Other then that most of you people are just plain STUPID!




Dude you are the dumbest one of them all do that! And you wonder why nothing works, by disabling everything it makes nothing to work in Vista! UAC has to be left on at all times if you disable everything because your to dumb to understand all the security features that is your problem, and then maybe you should stick with XP. I figure that you didn;t read about what UAC does or how it protects your stuff against hackers and all.

For some of you saying that WIndows Vista isn't backwards compatible.. oh god, it is more backwards compatible then XP! In fact if you did a right click on any programs, and click on compatibility you would see all the different kinds of options from Windows 95 to Windows Server 2003 Service pack 1!

Plus Vista is a very stable OS, my just surprised to see how many dumb people there is on this forum that doesn't quite understand vista and would disable everything! That has to be the most bone headed thing a person could do!

And on the Linux thing.. Ok sure there are some OS that are getting better with the Plug and Play well that is about it..
They haven't made the installing programs any easier or uninstalling and some still would have to be complied manually. So until that is gone LINUX well never be as eaay as Windows!

So my advise to alot of you idiots learn to use VISTA and don;t disable the UAC.. that is left on for a reason learn to read more about it before messing around with it!