The journey from there to here
Or, God Rest ye, Jerry Mendelbaum
Published on December 23, 2006 By Gideon MacLeish In Religion

The signs, of course, are everywhere. Jesus perched in a manger delightfully free of rats, ticks, and other vermin, while cattle stand ruminantly nearby and three wise men oversee a remarkably Caucasian Mary and Joseph fawning over a newborn babe, while shepherds with robes acquired from a store whose name is the nearest Aramaic equivalent of "the Gap" adore their new shepherd.

It's a beautiful scene, and one as fictional as that of the ever controversial Mr. Claus (who, scholars now believe, is indirectly related to Tim "the Tool Man" Taylor. The leap is reasonable, if you think about it. The tool man breaks things, the elves fix them. But I digress...). Winter solstice is the reason for the season (and pie....let us not forget the pie!), rather than Jesus.

See, the Gospels are silent on the birthday of Christ. What clues we can gather from the context of the writings would have him born, depending on which scholars you would believe, in the spring or the fall, but almost certainly NOT on December 25th. It would be remarkably convenient to date it thus, but it would also be inaccurate.

And the number of wise men present was almost certainly NOT three (more likely, three hundred. In those days, such a lengthy journey would not be undertaken by such a small party). And they almost certainly were not there just after Joseph snipped the umbilical cord. More likely, their arrival would have been closer to two years following Jesus' birth. This would explain why Herod ordered all baby boys under the age of two years old killed.

So why the celebration of Christmas? It's no secret, really. It has been documented multiple times how the holiday was adopted around the pagan winter solstice celebrations. The symbols have been explained enough that my repeating them here without citing sources would almost border on plagiarism, so I'll just leave it to you and google to figure out anything you may not know.

That brings up the question, then. Should Christians observe the holiday of Christmas? Frankly, as a pretty fundamentalist Christian, the question haunted me for awhile. There's nothing remotely Christian about Christmas. But the truth is, Christmas is in many ways a national holiday even if it has its religious roots. Now, some folks may disagree with me on this, but Christmas is potentially as ecumenical a holiday as you can get. It's a time to relax, a time to enjoy family and friends, and a time to show those family and friends how much you love them (and a time for PIE...it's all about the PIE!!!). In our fast paced world, those ideas, those concepts are badly needed. We don't take enough time to relax, we don't take enough time to show our families how much we love them, and as time gradually slips away from us, the chances become fewer and fewer for us to do so. As sobering a thought as it is, this may be the last Christmas you have to spend with some of your loved ones, so spend it wisely.

So, to answer my question: should a Christian celebrate Christmas? I'll leave it to the apostle Paul to answer that one for me:

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body [is] of Christ. (Col 2:16, 17).

 


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on Dec 25, 2006
temujin chinggis khaan, the son of the sun, was born 25 december 1166.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QJ82NpMFoE
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on Dec 25, 2006
lw making a boo boo
on Dec 25, 2006
Something that's always bugged me, how did we come to celebrate on the 25th, anyway? Winter Solstice (the longest night of the year before they start getting shorter again) usually occurs between the 19th and the 21st.


I believe it has to do with the pagan belief in the eternal battle of lightness over darkness, the sun over the moon. They (the pagans), saw the darkness slowly winning the battle up until the Solstice. Even though the Solstice does occur a few days earlier, the ancient pagans did not notice the trend begin reversing and the days getting longer until December 25th. They interpreted this as the light starting to win the battle over the darkness, or the birth of the Sun (Son).
on Dec 25, 2006

Reply By: UBoB

UBob are right!

on Dec 25, 2006
www.chingiskhanfilm.ru/eng/press.php
on Dec 25, 2006
I expect that the answer to your question lies, for me, not in the particulars surrounding Christ's actual birth but in the tradition of celebrating God with us or Emanuel.
This tradition is surrounded by good will, societal cheer, giving, charity, coming together and positive forward looking as well as sentimental memories of the past.

At a time when our society is characterized by independence, self focus, individualism, and a diminishing sense of the importance of social welfare and togetherness,

what ever the reason you celebrate

Jesus

OR

pie

it seems like a good thing to me.
on Dec 26, 2006
www.lacma.org/khan/4/2.htm
on Dec 27, 2006
www.coldsiberia.org/webdoc8.htm
on Dec 27, 2006
apparently some identity-challenged mongoloid (known variously as 'Scyth (yakut)', 'the legacy of genghis khan' and--my personal fave--'the spiritual qualities of the Mongols') possesses information relating to this topic.

a secret of xanaxdu, perhaps?
on Dec 27, 2006
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato%27s_metaphor_of_the_sun
on Dec 28, 2006
www.coldsiberia.org/webdoc3.htm

whozoo.org/mac/Music/Primer/Primer_index.htm

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjrJSgMkL68
on Dec 29, 2006
users.cwnet.com/millenia/SumerianSoundrules.htm

www.geocities.com/athens/parthenon/7069/tiamar.html

youtube.com/watch?v=dcLMH8pwusw
on Jan 01, 2007
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyombo

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-208619888961779202

video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=244e6ce289f786a6be6f23057cd0830f.605120
on Jan 02, 2007
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svyatogor

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogdo_Zanabazar

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=183174976530870036
on Jan 03, 2007
… Prof. Moles, probably, a Jew, noticed that the Thorah consists of 647390 of letters of the Hebrew alphabet. Needless to say that we have got here a brilliant connection:

647390 = 4Ф 105 + 10 tan 66

Besides, the Hebrew alphabet consists of 22 signs because of stability reasons:

2 (Ф – Ф-1)

The 4Ф is well-known operator number in Absolute Geometry because of

e4Ф = 400 Ф

Thus, the Thora appears to have been encoded in

iπФ

if not mention other subtleties as tan66 or even


22nd root of 647390 = cos -1 57

Precisely,

22nd root of 647390 = cos -1(57 + (Ф/i)-16)

Thanks to God, neither the Thorah, nor the World have been imagined by this author and he is free from any criticism for introducing mystics into science. Very few of us, indeed, understands the real meaning of the only postulate of the sciences: in nature there are only natural phenomena. We can ever meet only natural phenomena whatever these phenomena may at first glance look to us whose ignorance is proverbial. The above, no doubt, brilliant coincidence owes to the natural logic of things that once reckoned it necessary to encode absolute geometry (AG) in the Thorah. What else can we say?

One of few sacred scriptures is The Secret History of the Mongols that notably induced the Europian Renaissance; Mongolian advancements made Europe recognise the advantages of realistic thinking; it felt that only realism makes man a little bit clever than others. And this “little bit” always suffices to conquer the world or develop experimental sciences. Realism is embodied in mathematics. You may or may not trust the latter, but what does exist is mathematical formulae alone. The Secret History has the following definitive parameters:

4328 lines;
282 paragraphs.

And the desirable shift to pure geometry is instantaneous:

4368 / 163 = ΘW
4328 = ( SS + e 10 cos 2Θstr) / ee

Also,

lg ln (4328 / 282) = 1 / (E + 1 /(102 e))

In the Principia you will truly appreciate Theta angles as pillars of inner geometry and the hierarcho-structural constant 74, too, and thus

lg 4328 = 1 / (cos (74 + Θ-1))

which is unbelievable even to me. Of cource, the Thorah and Secret History numbers shall, if coupled, provide us with a most esoteric information as:

647390 x 4328 = 10 e tan66

It contains more, since

66 – 1 / (102(1 + Ф2))

where

ω = 1 + Ф2

is the AG-prototype for angular velocity. In this instance should think that history has circular laws that dictate when sacred scriptures to be written and when – deciphered. During the last three years I have exhausted all my emotions and nothing would wonder me any more. If otherwise:

647390 x (4328 + E4) = 10 e tan66

confirming, again, that great scriptures do constantly play a very refined joke over us. Since they are decipherable, they should have been once encoded. In mathematics the third is impossible, if realistically.

However, firmly notice the following. In AG everything is of quantum fluctuation origins and everything has its inverse operator that only performs qualitative geometric evolutions transforming the existing at any given moment realities. We ourselves have inverse operators, too. One of them – science that always transforms us toward good or bad depending on circumstances and the will of nature. The world – both natural and man-made – is ruled by the logic of spontaneity which alone is the mathematical logic and, therefore, nothing and nobody is exempt of this rule. Spontaneity does necessarily mean two things: a. Spontaneity is the strictest possible logic; b. Spontaneity is implicitly non-ary, that is, no logic. Such is the underlying paradox, mother of all paradoxes. Sacred scriptures are as natural a phenomena as man is. Sacred scriptures grow, as anything else, out of quantum fluctuations and inverse operators. This proposition we do explicitly illuminate as next:

4328 = 10 1/( ©@ ) / 6

where the evolution cycle constant is as perfect a number as

6 = 1 + 2 + 3 = 1 * 2 * 3

The principal conclusion we should deduct from the previous few paragraphs would read: Mathematics and mysticism coincide as dualistic within the minimax logic of spontaneity. I mean that science and religion are equivalent as dualistic within the cognitive process...


Excerpt from The Thora and the Stonehenge Megalith,
Principia mathematica and prima materia, volume 3, 2001, Ulaanbaatar
by Besud Ch Erdeni


www.primasounds.com/PrimaSounds/ch1.html
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